*sigh* Alright... (effective pair of characters)

[Rooster]

What are good classes to play as a pair?

I will likely end up as a Paladin.

Canidae is considering Hunter or Druid.

Would they work well as a pair?

We're not looking to be the best - but to be effective.

[Morety]

Hehe, tell something embarrassing about yourself in the privates and get a free copy ;)

[Komrade]

Hehe, tell something embarrassing about yourself in the privates and get a free copy ;)


NooooOOOoooo!! I want to win that ;)

[Bearabald]

Personally, I think a pally / mage would be nice. Paladins lack in damage pretty bad (my level 21 mage has roughly the same dps as my 60 pally without using seals) and usually have long down times if fighting higher level mobs because of mana issues. Summoned water helps that a lot.

But really any class is a good combo. I havent found too many classes that dont work well with a pally. Hunter would be interesting since you can have the pet as main tank. You can assist it and heal it as well while the hunter sits back with ranged attacks. Druid wouldnt be all too bad either, especially a feral spec druid, but you wouldnt have a very high group dps.. long fights :) However, druids are much more needed in end-game content than hunters for the time being.

Anyways, send me a tell. I am the guild's main blacksmith on alliance. I can set you up with some armor and weapons.

~Bear

[Rooster]

Given the huge number of problems on Storm Reaver, I don't see us joining that server :(

[Rooster]

Any idea why the patcher SUCKS so bad? OMG. It's rediculous.

[Morety]

Yeah, you have to do some port settings, allowing access on port 3775(?) or something to help speed up the pos.

Or there were places you can download it faster, can't remember where though.

[Hammer]

Nooooo. Play horde toons on stormbeaver.

[spyder913]

Given the huge number of problems on Storm Reaver, I don't see us joining that server :(
lol.. kel thuzad is one of the 20 that were down for a few DAYS =P

[MickeyFinn]

Paladins and Rogues both are EXTREMELY abundant on Kel'Thuzad (and all servers). The hunter is a primarily solo class. If I were to really make a suggestion for a duo, it'd be PRIEST/WARLOCK. Otherwise, PRIEST/XXXX.

[Ivyrielle]

As a Warlock, I've duo'd with Pally's and found it to be a very nice combination. Priests are a faboo class as well. Consider this a second to MickeyFinn's suggestions. ;)

[MickeyFinn]

Ivy! What server are you playing on, I always liked having you around in daoc

[Riddick]

Considering that every class can solo to 60 I think the best advice is to play what you want to play. You can develop your skills in how to work with each other as you go.

I think the patcher is one of those file distributing things isnt it? Like you download it and you also upload it as well for someone else to download it.

[Rooster]

We joined the 'Shadow Council' RP server. Light load.

Early early this morning I had like a 76ms ping - which is great considering our podunk Cable ISP.

I made a Paladin, I'm level 7 now... and Canidae is a Hunter, prolly level 8 by now - but we're in different areas.

I've been asking around and got 2 wildly different answers - how can we meet? She's a night elf, in her homeland, and I'm near Stormwind.

[butress]

thats a bit of a challenge. might involve a little death. :)

if you are heading to her. you need to get to ironforge (dun morogh), thru loch modan, then thru the wetlands to menethil harbor, and then across to dark shore, then across to the island.

Mebbe on an RP server a friendly pally might escort you thru, for great justice and all that crap. :D

http://www.worldofwar.net/cartography/worldmap/easterncont.php

[butress]

i would also recommend getting her back to IF at some point anyway, as thats the economic center of the alliance

[Blat]

How to meet.. get a mage of high level to portal one of you to the larger town..
Just walk up to a 40+ lvl mage, and if they are friendly they will inv you to grp and put up a portal for you to teleport to other large town.
I'd say get the night elf off the island, closer to the other town, but what do i know, i play horde!

[Rooster]

That's what we figured.

[Noleader]

Had you been on one of our servers I could have logged my Mage in and ported one of you :)

[Kegg OBeer]

Bah! Come play with the rest of the Lions on Stormbeaver... Despite what a lot of people bitch about, I rarely have problems with lag, and when I do it's usually only in the major cities... Horde is WAY more fun to play, and there seems to be a LOT less asshats on horde. Alliance is the new Alb zerg.

[PoxTheSmall]

Yeah Roo, you have to remake on either Kel'Thuzad or Stormreaver! :)

[Bearabald]

I am getting real sick of the horde players need to talk trash about alliance. I dont even feel like we are in the same guild anymore. Most of the people that play on the alliance dont have this need to talk shit about the horde players... i wish i understood why.

Not to mention when anyone says they are interested in playing alliance people start jumping on them to go horde even tho the alliance side of the guild is in more of a need of additional players.

Want to know why I dont play my horde characters as much? Everytime I go there someone has to say how horde is so much better and allaince = alb. It makes it so fun for us that actually prefer alliance to have the realm we like talked down every single time we play.. yay. It is getting old.

[Kegg OBeer]

Bear, we're not talking about you guys on KT. As even with the Albion players on various servers in DAOC, there were still a few cool players. They just happened to be outnumbered by the immature dickheads that make griefing their main objective.

You should know that those are the people that we're referring to, not you guys. And we're speaking from our experiences in dealing with alliance players that act this way on a constant basis. Yeah, I know there are quite a few cool people that play on aliance too... But you have to realize. All it takes are a few asshats to destroy the reputation of the entire group. Yeah I'm sure there are horde players like that on your server too... But honestly... Look at the WoW boards. Most of the asswipes there just trying to piss people off? They're posting as alliance toons.

And I think the reason people jump on other Lions to play Horde, is because that's where the vast majority of us play. Of course we want them to come play on our server. We said the same thing to you people on KT as well...

[Riddick]

Blame the smart idea to start two servers.. wish I woulda been interested in playing WoW when everyone was starting to cuz I woulda voiced my disdain at the thought...

The general consesus on SR tho is that albs are asshats but that in no way is in reference to the alliance as a whole and especially not the KT people... We both play on PVP servers and there is tension between the two sides but when you KT guys come on when someone says something about alliance it is just in jest and nothing more... and if someone was being a dick about then I'll kick em in the nuts. :eek: :ooer: :hump:

[Noleader]

Well atleast I think we captured pox... so just need to hijack a few more from the horde side and we should be fine :)

[Canidae]

So far on the rping server I haven't meet one jerk. We are playing Alliance. Actually, everone I have encountered so far are helpful and nice. We go around buffing each other as we pass and only jumping in fights if its obvious help is needed.

Just today, I had like 5-7 people buff me out of the blue, then bow and leave. No smart-mouthing, just generalized helping. I have seen multiply people offer to make bags and stuff for anyone that has the supplies, or even marking it very cheap for people.

There was a level 30 guy offering to follow lower levels and just buff them to help out.

Maybe you should all consider switiching to our server. :P

[Noleader]

I would get banned :)

Plus it is not a PvP server

[malkovich]

lol ! how did i miss this post ? it is pretty fun for a while tho roo , if the social aspect and the guild were more suited to my taste i would surely still be playing ... enjoy ... :) ... :P ...

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/malkovichanakovol/gerbil.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/malkovichanakovol/applause.gif

hehehe ... :P ...

[Riddick]

Playing on a RP server would be more of that gerbil wheel that Roo always talks about. Unless the game is strictly PvE I will aways choose PVP (and when I can't choose PVP I will choose RP).

Edit - Lower levels will be nice I am sure, once you get a little higher you usually start getting into the zones with more of the BNET gimps. I am not sure what it would be like for the Alliance but as soon as you get to Crossroads your bubble starts to get bursteded.

[Canidae]

Sorry. I have to disagree. Playing on the PVP server is the gerbil wheel. Your options are: hunt monsters, hunt people, makes things... repeat.

On the rp server, you can find people to make the game more complex. That's why UO is still going as strong as it is, because it is more tuned to role-playing than any other MMORPG around.

[Rooster]

That's the only thing I'd miss - is PvP.

But, I think it'll be sufficient - if there's decent RPing.

[Kegg OBeer]

You didn't capture Pox, he escaped there because he owed everyone money...

:owned:

[Riddick]

Sorry. I have to disagree. Playing on the PVP server is the gerbil wheel. Your options are: hunt monsters, hunt people, makes things... repeat.

On the rp server, you can find people to make the game more complex. That's why UO is still going as strong as it is, because it is more tuned to role-playing than any other MMORPG around.

Well everything is a gerbil wheel if you wanna make it one... but all I am saying is that as far as I know a RP server is just the same as PVE server except it has a different label on the server select. I don't think it has an actual different ruleset does it?

I play the games for a challenge and PvE only offers so much, PVP offers that player challenge. If I wanna RP then I will go over to Tony's.

[Boom]

Bear, when I complain about albs, I am specifically complaining about STORMBEAVER alliance. If you don't have an alliance toon on Stormbeaver, then I ain't talkin about you. I don't have much idea what things are like on Kel thublah, but I know that the Lion alliance toons are all cool. Hell, I played with yall in daoc and coh, I highly doubt that yall became poopypants since we jumped into WoW.

On the rare occasions that I play my gnome on Kel Thublah, I complain just as much about the jerkface whored toons there. Wherever I play, the other guys are the bad guys and I gotta talk trash about them. It's part of the fun of the game for me. The bad guys are smelly asshat poopypants. Otherwise why would I want to fight them all the time? But when I'm on Kel Thu and I say whoreds are all asshats, I mean Kel Thu whoreds. And when I'm on Stormbeaver and I say albs are asshats, I mean Stormbeaver alliancers.

And when we try to pressure some Lion to play Stormbeaver, its not because we think we need the players there more than yall, and when we say "Whored is better!!!" we don't really mean that whored is better, its just our way of saying, "We miss you Lion Person! Come play with us so we can see you more!" Hell, if I was just starting WoW now, I would hope that Lions on both servers would be fighting over me and saying stuff like, "Play on our server!! We are more fun!!!" If yall didn't do that, it might hurt my special feelings. I can't speak for Hammer, but I bet that when he said in that post above, that Roo should come to Stormbeaver, he was just saying, "Hi Roo! Long time no play! Come play with me!" He wasn't saying that the Lions on Kel Thublah are stinky albs.

Anyway, Roo, I think the Pally, Hunter combo should really rock for yall. Pally and hunter pet can share tanking duty, and a properly equiped hunter can do awesome damage (possibly the best sustained ranged damage in the game. Mages outblast hunters at first, but then mages run out of mana and hunters keep shootin away.) So I think the combo should work out particularly well, even though I think basically any combo would be ok. Since any toon can pretty much solo, any combination of toons can do really well. I've done quests with my hunter with just a priest, or just a druid, or just a shammy, and I've done quests with my warlock with just a shammy or just another warlock or just a hunter. It's not at all like daoc where you need specific combinations of toons to do most things. You can do most things with any combinations of toons. You just need a more standard group (tank, healer, damage doer) for the really hard instances.

[Ivyrielle]

Ivy! What server are you playing on, I always liked having you around in daoc

That's so sweet! I have a 47 Human Warlock on Warsong PVP. :) You'll find me under Elizagoth if you ever feel like playing there. (Sadly, it sounds like Warsong is only slightly better than Stormreaver as far as the population driven problems go!)

Conveniently for me, my long time play partner from DAoC started a guild, so I had a home right away. http://www.counciloftirisfal.com (http://www.counciloftirisfal.com/) We're doing pretty nicely at 23 level 60s so far, with another 25 or so in the 50+ range.

[Jerith|Tony]

So far on the rping server I haven't meet one jerk. We are playing Alliance. Actually, everone I have encountered so far are helpful and nice. We go around buffing each other as we pass and only jumping in fights if its obvious help is needed.

Just today, I had like 5-7 people buff me out of the blue, then bow and leave. No smart-mouthing, just generalized helping. I have seen multiply people offer to make bags and stuff for anyone that has the supplies, or even marking it very cheap for people.

There was a level 30 guy offering to follow lower levels and just buff them to help out.

Maybe you should all consider switiching to our server. :P


I have the same experience on Stormreaver personally. I've always got someone buffing me. If I'm looking to score a named spawn or something and someone takes it from me by accident they have apologized and helped me with the next one. Or they notice me and offer to team up. Or higher levels offering to help me through hard quests. (granted most of those are LoL members) The only ones who give me trouble usually are st00pid albs coming through killing everything that moves, and you won't get away from that on an RP server.

On the flipside, I have a lowbie Night Elf Druid that I started on Shadow Council one night. Some of the tells I was getting from other newb night elves were borderline obscene. It probably didn't help that she was running around without any armor on. One polite fellow asked me "is your bf playin?" and later "wanna cyber".

My point isn't that Stormreaver is some paradise and Shadow Council is not. It's that the both probably have quite similar asshats per capita.

You know I agree totally about RP environments. Left to my own devices I do what you did. Choose the RP designated server. Because the percentage of non-asshats who try to play in character is generally higher. But don't discount the friendliness (and willingness to participate in your roleplay) of good people who are trying to play the game, enjoy it, and enjoy others doing the same.

Now the technical issues with Stormreaver. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I can play, and plenty often, and with the server split for Stormreaver I expect it will get even better. However when I can't play, or get rollbacks, etc, I get pretty righteous about it.

I'm not trying to convince you. I did say I have an alt on Shadow Council. Known you guys are there I might play her more. But Tarsis is my "play with spouse" character. Hrrhaannk is my current Alt on Stormreaver, and I'm rather fond of him.

Hey, you guys going Pally/Hunter I find that quite amusing, because Pamela and I wondered the same thing and settled on Shaman/Hunter. Shaman and Pally have one really big thing in common. They are the faction exclusives.

[PoxTheSmall]

You didn't capture Pox, he escaped there because he owed everyone money...

Ouch!

[Miles]

You didn't capture Pox, he escaped there because he owed everyone money...

:owned:



Damn Kegg you beat me to it

[Rooster]

Tony/Jerith/Megan/Tarsis is going to try and make the run from Menthis (?) to Ironguard tonight - so Breangwen the Night Elf hunter can be with burly Paladin Glaneon.

Hope she can run fast!

[Noleader]

Menthis (?) to Ironguard

lol I think you mean Menethil Harbour to Ironforge :)

Just make sure to get the flight point in Menethil before you start your trek, that way you do not have to make the run again :)

[Noleader]

Oh btw this will come in great use for you. Thank Kapone for digging it up not long after release http://www.kaldorei.com/worldmap/

[Jerith|Tony]

Tony/Jerith/Megan/Tarsis is going to try and make the run from Menthis (?) to Ironguard tonight - so Breangwen the Night Elf hunter can be with burly Paladin Glaneon.

Hope she can run fast!

That's Tony/Jerith/Megan/Tarsis/Hrrhaannk/Cynda to you!

[Slightlyoff]

Actually...I think we did a fine job of picking the WRONG sides on these servers
on KT since they implemented toon moving were getting grieved so bad from Horde that its getting to the point we need 60s to babysit the little ones and from what little I've seen on SR its the reverse...theirs asshats on both sides of both servers and unless someone can come up with an alliance and an alliance only chat like daoc I'm probly going to end up getting appealed...as the asshats far out-yak the rest

[Riddick]

Hi Sly. ;)

[PoxTheSmall]

You didn't capture Pox, he escaped there because he owed everyone money...

Bah, I'm just having a lot of fun on my warrior over on the alliance side. I'll be back on SR soon enough, to finish off my shammy and get my warrior there to 60 also (fury/arms instead of prot).

[Riddick]

I got something like 29 Fury/ 22 Arms and love it. Got the good "procs" of Fury plus crit dmg bonus and bleed of arms. It's worked very good for me and I can point out to people that I am not a cookie cutter MS build :D

Plus under the right circumstances a 1600dmg Heroic Strike outta the blue is very sweet not to mention the 3300dmg execute. :cheese:

[PoxTheSmall]

I've come to love protection spec on this toon, but I am curious about different builds. I'm lvl 43 and a lvl 50 warlock jumped me while I was exping, and I discovered something very amazing about Improved Shield Bash 2 that I hadn't thought about before...silence = no insta, so it gave new meaning to ass whooping. I beat the dude without going past half life.

Now mages won't be as much of an issue...no blink, no root...etc.

[Coplann]

Shadow Priest + either Druid/Paladin/Warrior == kick ass