What WoW classes are best?

[Andolinni]

So which classes are best to pick? This first time i've even considered playing wow, but i think i'll play it. It'd be real nice to have a character like chanter that can make great cash/xp/rps all in same character.

[Hammer]

I play a preist and enjoy it but it's not a great farming class. Hunters are probably the FOTM class right now. I was pretty impressed by the stuff they could kill solo. Hunters are a ranged class with pets. Warlocks seem to be able to farm pretty well too. They get pets as well. I don't think there is anything that compare to the chanter at it's peak though. The buffs are too spread out. I find it to be pretty much the same thing but more balanced toward solo play.

[Allison]

I think warlocks are the shiznit. I don't play one, but I'm always envious of them. They seem to be able to do just about everything and do it welll. Maybe one will come along and tell you all about it.

[Ivyrielle]

My warlock is level 27 (*almost* 28), and I freaking adore her. I'd effuse more, but I think someone posted a link and a warlock thread from someone more experienced than I in one of these threads here. Few highlights of my own though:

Self-heal/Self-rez; these use a reageant gained through normal fighting... insta cast the spell, which is a DOT toward the end of a fight. If the mob dies and you gain experience, you get a Soul Shard. Soul Shards are used for different spells, and for summoning all but the lowest level pet. Self-rez is quite handy if you're soloing. You can only cast the self-resurrection buff-spell once every 30 minutes. This can be on you, or on another friendly target, and lasts for 30 minutes.

Pets: Imp has a group stamina buff/nukes like crazy, but has low hps.
Veil-something or other- Big blue djinni looking pet; big hps, slower damage output, taunts, but isn't always able to regain aggro.
Succubus: Seems to be the all around best pet so far; mid-hps, but has a DD, and more importantly, this is the pet that has your CC, Seduction, which makes adds fall in love with her and quit attacking you until they take damage.

Warlocks have a nice DD spell, but most of their damage is inflicted with DOT spells. Using talent points, one of mine that had a cast time is now insta-cast. Hence, I have 2 insta DOT spells (one Affliction (curses) line, one in Destruction), and a castable DOT, all of which stack. I pull with my castable, follow with the other 2 insta-DOTs, or if circumstances dictate, can use other curses to control the situation. (Reduce damage for 2 mins, slow casting of spells by up to 150%, DOT, and more so far).

Um, yeah, she's fun.

Other classes which seem to have a lot of FOTM does-it-all capability are paladin and shaman, depending on if you go Alliance or Horde.

Here it is:
http://www.legionoflions.com/showthread.php?t=7083

[Andolinni]

awsome thanks everyone for insight. yea i think warlocks are pretty uber, and paladin/shaman are a nice middleground also.

[Boom]

Only alliance can be paladins and only whored can be shamans. Because of the whole "grass is greener" thingy paladins are perceived as being overpowered by whoreds and shamans are perceived as being overpowered by alliances. Just like how albs thought hibs were overpowered and hibs thought sorcs were overpowered (except sorcs really were overpowered). I haven't played either pally or shammy, they both seem pretty cool. None of the other classes are seen as being overpowered since both sides have access to them. Kind of like if Albs could roll chanters they wouldn't have thought they were overpowered.

I have a midlevel hunter and warlock, both are really really fun. Both are good for soloing, but I think the warlock has more to offer a group.

I think mage is an underrated class. You don't hear people talking about them a lot, but the people I know who have mages really like them and when I group with mages they seem pretty cool.

Rogues look like a lot of fun too. I have a lowbie rogue and just like in daoc, being sneaky and hitting hard just totally rocks. Of course, it is the class of choice for the goober 12 year olds who camp lowbie zones and grief because they have epeen issues. But you can be a rogue and not be an asshat. We got some rogues in our guild and they don't asshat it up. And unlike daoc, rogues are actually good in pve groups.

[Andolinni]

Of course, it is the class of choice for the goober 12 year olds who camp lowbie zones and grief because they have epeen issues.

rofl, damn are you saying i should roll a rogue?

[Boom]

LOL, goober!

[Coplann]

a general consensus among both horde and alliance priests is that shamans are overpowered. they can heal, have damage spells, have wards, can shapechange, can rez and self-rez and get better armor than priests.

after open and hidden nerfs to priests HoT, Fade and Mind Control Spells there is some frustration in the priest community. just like the leviation spell, it helps you nothing really, only lasts 1 minute and needs an item to be used. Fade for instance doesnt do anything in PvP and barely does anything in PvE (supposed to make mobs stop attacking you, but rarely works).

so far Iam level 17 in the EU WoW Beta as priest. I personally enjoy the class. can deal out good damage and heal decently. problem is the lack of good buffs (so far only Con-Buff, later on 2 resist buffs, but nothing that helps that much compared to Buffs from Paladins or Druids). only having cloth armor sucks too.

So Id say Priests are a working class, but lack some uniqueness. the spells that were "cool" are just fluff now or so situational that you may use em once in a lifetime and as some people say priests are frustrated beeing nerfed while Shamans get suggar blown into their asses from Blizzard.

For instance, we had a raid group going the other day (6 groups). I was the only priest. :|
edit:
oh yeah, rogues are basically the real FOTM class when it comes to melee damage. stealth is just as strong as in DAoC, if not stronger. sure there are counters like see invisibility from mages, but from what I have seen rogues can kill ppl with impunity just like in old DAoC where 1-shot kills wouldnt drop your stealth. ;)

Warriors are rarely seen. no wonder when rogues pwn em in duels. rogues have a good chance to kill a Paladin too. ;)

so I dont know what class is the official counter to them.

[MickeyFinn]

At level 60, a priest dominates all other classes 1 on 1. ALL other classes.

[Brigantia]

At level 60, a priest dominates all other classes 1 on 1. ALL other classes.

Only if they are spec'd full on shadow :) There's some nasty stuff in that line.

[Morety]

Wearing cloth as a priest isn't bad since we have the af buff. The problem is it only lasts 3 minutes and it's a real pita having to recast it all night long. Extend the timer on that to at least 15 min's (30 would be perfect imo) and it's okay.

I love my priest in the pvp and in groups. Soloing with a priest is slow as hell though.

[feril]

No no 3 min is fine for you goobers:) 30 min buff timer is fine on the drood Mark buff but they really need to increase the 10 min timer on thorns cause its a pain in the ass cause its a 10 min timer that should really be a 30 min timer:) imho cause it would really rock to have all spell buffs expire at the same time. Flame Away!!;)

[Boom]

I don't know what the official counter to rogues is, but a hunter has a fair chance of beating a rogue in 1on1. Even if the rogue gets the drop on him. It all depends on whether the rogue's snare poison procs or not. If it does go off, the hunter is toast. If we are snared we can't get out of melee and a hunter has zero chance of beating a rogue in melee. If the snare poison doesn't proc, a hunter has a few tricks to get into range, like wingclip (melee snare), scattershot (2 sec stun and our only shot that works in short range). Once in range, a hunter can use concussive shot to stay in range (snare arrow/bullet) and plunk away at the rogue. Our regular arrows don't work while we are moving, but we can throw our dot arrow on a rogue and let that tic, and every 6 seconds we blast an arcane arrow. The trick is, while you are running away from the rogue, you jump, and while in midair you spin, hit arcane arrow, and spin back the way you were facing before you land (the famous jump shot). If you do it right the rogue will gain no distance on you at all. So it might take a while, but we would win. I think the rogue/hunter dynamic is one of the great successes of class balance. The stealther should have an advantage, element of suprise and all, but it shouldn't be a guaranteed win (if snare poison always went off first shot, it would be). And even if the snare poison doesn't work, the hunter still has to be on his toes and know how to use his skills to win the fight.

The one ability that hunters have which really makes life difficult for the rogue is our hunter's mark. Rogues have this "vanish" ability that allows them to stealth in the middle of a fight and everyone loses target on him. A high level rogue was in Orgasmrrr the other day and kept killing people, then vanishing when everyone would start attacking him. If a rogue has hunter's mark on him, the hunter can find him no matter what. I'm not positive, but I don't even think a rogue can restealth in any way if hunter's mark is on him. Once a hunter joined the chase on this rogue and got him marked, it was all over.

I don't think any class has an ability that lets him find a rogue, like truesight in daoc. Mages get some sort of see invisibility, but it totally sucks from what I read. Doesn't work at all, not even worth buying. Hunters get Track Hidden, but I can tell you from personal experience that its worthless. Sure, it shows stealthed players on the minimap, but its range is way too limited. It doesn't show up on the minimap until the rogue is pretty much in melee range. Basically a little red dot will pop up on the minimap about 1/2 sec before the rogue stabs you. Totally worthless. Hunters also get an ability called Flare. We throw this little flare on the ground and it shows any stealthers within a 10 yard radius. Again, almost totally worthless. Its a tiny circle and the odds of throwing the flare and revealing a rogue are just tiny. If a rogue was that close, you would already have been ganked.

To be honest, I am kind of glad that See Invisible, Track Hidden, and Flare are all kind of worthless. From doac, I kinda learned that if an ability exists that can really counter stealth (like the original version of See Hidden, or Truesight) it just takes all the fun out of playing a stealther class. If you want to kill a stealther, you should have to bait him and ambush him, not use some trick to make his stealth worthless.

[Roscoes_C&W]

You should roll a real life character and make some real life money. WoW is for fags.

[binder_pellinor]

Shadow priest with improved inner fire and shadowform have the absorb of shamans wielding a shield.

They're pretty uber backup tanks hehe.

[Aasimon]

You should roll a real life character and make some real life money. WoW is for fags.

Do you actually ever contribute to anything? Do you just troll the forums looking an opportunity to deface and insult other people, their arguments, or what they find enjoyable? The Legion of Lions has a history and tradition of casual joking and witty humor, to both of which you cannot measure up to.

I am fairly sure I am not the only one is in agreement here. I HAVE seen you occasionally write something reasonable, and on a couple of occasions, something worthwhile, but by most measurable standards your commentary contributes nothing to the thread of conversation.

Is this the summation of your personal worth? Your validation by insulting everybody and everything around you? Hopefully that isn't who you really are and you use this forum to become something you aren't in face to face interaction.

If this is who you really are, then you, Roscoes_C&W, need to "roll a real life character" and move on.

...


[I know the vast majority of my Lion friends will respond with, "Just ignore him" or "Just set his threads to ignore like I have" but sometimes, ya just have to write it out]

[Roscoes_C&W]

Holy christ man, I didn't know you held your mmorpg's so close to your heart.

[Boom]

Well, you can't blame Aas. I mean you are attacking our hobby. Its fun for us. Of course we are going to defend it.

If every time there was a thread about basketball, I put in a rant about how watching basketball was a waste of time and for fags and you should get a life instead, you would probably feel similar. I mean, you enjoy watching basketball and it brings you pleasure. Where the hell do I get off saying its a waste of time and its for fags and you should get a life?

And don't bother comparing basketball to mmorpgs. I know its not the same thing, but you get my point.

[Roscoes_C&W]

No I wouldn't feel similar at all. I wouldn't care.

[Boom]

Yeah, I guess you are right, you wouldn't care. But you still see my point, right?

If I don't like basketball and I think its dumb, and I posted in every basketball thread calling yall fags and telling you to get a life, what would my purpose be? Would I really expect to convince you all that you are wrong about basketball and it really is lame and you aren't really having fun watching it, or would I just be trolling and trying to piss yall off? Would I be trying to make an actual point, or would I just be goofing on yall? And should I be suprised if someone said, "Hey Boom, I like basketball. If you don't like it, fine, but don't come here and tell me I shouldn't like it. Fuck off Boom!" I guess then I could respond by saying, "Wow, I didn't realize you were so attached to your gay sport and held it so close to your heart. You must fantasize about 7 foot tall men when you jerk off every night." And it would go on and on.

This is a pretty open forum. If you want to post in WoW threads about how lame and gay it is, go right ahead. Just don't act so suprised ("Holy christ man") when someone defends his hobby and says you are trolling.

[Roscoes_C&W]

I wasn't talking to any of you. I was talking to Andollini since he started the thread and asked what character he should roll. I know Andolinni won't get upset because I have talked to him before.

[Boom]

Hey, its ok with me. I don't really mind your anti-mmorpg stuff. Sometimes its kinda funny. And you were right about daoc sucking (now that I have a good game to compare it to :p ). I just understand why Aas got bugged.

Its all good. :)

[Lothar]

was goofing off tonight with priest talents, thinking about a smite full disc priest.

geared toward burning the crap outta one mob and having no downtime.

also heavy melee and agility for better melee defense.

bored at work, what can I say.... I dig my priest ;)

[butress]

i just respecced my priest to get some shadow spells. basically, i wanted to be a lil more effective in pvp as it exists today. im considering still getting down to inner focus on the disc tree though. i fully expect to respec at least once more for end game stuff. and i dont really have a problem with that. the gold is out there if you need it.

the end of tree spells on the disc and holy side really didnt blow my robe up. esp that spirit boost talent. spirit seems pretty weak.

[Morety]

I used my first respec and went 100% shadow on my priest. I'll go that way until lvl 60, then decide from there what to do. So far so good.

Hammer and I, both shadow priests, are lvl 34. Last night we got ganked by a couple guys in their low 40's. We kicked their asses handily. That was fun :)

[butress]

i know that im not supposed to be mr ass kicker at pvp. but at the same time. i didnt feel like a lost that much healing while starting down the shadow line. im shadow disc split right now. i havent played enough to get a feel for it.

btw. if you are ever looking for someone to roll with, about your level, look up "Muh" (LL|engma) hes a cOw charmin.

I know that tayaa has had some groups with miwok from cap dom. and we all got ran over by a group of loins in uld. last night. its good to see friendly faces around :D

[spyder913]

I hope they put alliances in so we can have a big ol' chat channel

[Figtoria]

Where do hunters fit in the "how good this class is" rankings?

As long as Boom isn't leading Sticky, Norm and I headfirst into certain death, I'm pretty uber. Though I need my best friend, Fluffy, to do it right. But me and Fluffy solo pretty well at lvl 23, in my opinion. Better than any stupid daoc character I ever had.

[Boom]

I don't lead into certain death. I lead into probably death!

Hunters are pretty good. When they aren't just standing around chatting in /gu while Sticky and Boom are getting beat up by mobs!!! FIGGY SHOOT YOUR GUNS!!!! :rolly:

[Noleader]

I Respeced my priest Shadow and love it. Downtime is not an issue on single pulls (the mana regen from the 12 sec spirit boost owns) and on double pulls I can normally take 2 mobs (2 lvls above me) without much risk.

[Figtoria]

I don't lead into certain death. I lead into probably death!

Hunters are pretty good. When they aren't just standing around chatting in /gu while Sticky and Boom are getting beat up by mobs!!! FIGGY SHOOT YOUR GUNS!!!! :rolly:


Okay, I admit I get bored easily, I'm very naughty. But I am not the one who charges into the middle of 12 mobs to kill the King Mob we've been fighting two hours to get to, when we could have patiently picked them off a few at a time and THEN pulled the Big Bad. Whoooooo could that be???

:p

[Noleader]

Boom needs to roll a warlock... Then he could kill you with style... RAIN OF FIRE!!!!!!!

[Figtoria]

Sticky and Boom both can do that!!!

[Boom]

Okay, I admit I get bored easily, I'm very naughty. But I am not the one who charges into the middle of 12 mobs to kill the King Mob we've been fighting two hours to get to, when we could have patiently picked them off a few at a time and THEN pulled the Big Bad. Whoooooo could that be???
Guilty as charged. If Figgy = naughty, then Boom = naughty times 10. :D But just because you are good and I am bad doesn't mean I am gonna stop teasing you. :p

Boom needs to roll a warlock... Then he could kill you with style... RAIN OF FIRE!!!!!!!
Rolled one as soon as I found out that there was a rain of FIYAAAAAHHH in this game! My warlock is now level 25 and my hunter is getting all rusty. :D

[butress]

i met boomlock. we danced and cybart on the floor of the AH. it was hawt.

[MickeyFinn]

Official counter to a rogue is a paladin for hordelets, but a warrior is just as bad. Retalliation, overpower.... Don't take a good one on unless you're ready to die

[IceFire]

At level 60, a priest dominates all other classes 1 on 1. ALL other classes.

I have no problem eating lvl 60 priest up with my 56 shammy....

[IceFire]

I Respeced my priest Shadow and love it. Downtime is not an issue on single pulls (the mana regen from the 12 sec spirit boost owns) and on double pulls I can normally take 2 mobs (2 lvls above me) without much risk.

And I see no "Thanks to Icefire for suggesting this uber shadow spec to me instead of my gimped holy spec"

[Riddick]

Official counter to a rogue is a paladin for hordelets, but a warrior is just as bad. Retalliation, overpower.... Don't take a good one on unless you're ready to die

Yeah with rogues, even if they get the jump on me, they really have to fight for there kill. If they dodge me once i get a free swing and with talents I have a +50% chance above my normal chance to crit on the hit. The swing is wpn dmg +35 I think and with my big axe it works out to about 450 to 500dmg + bleed for another 150dmg or so. And that's a free swing so at the same time I am also swinging my axe for normal dmg. If they get the jump and stuns on me I can usually make up the difference pretty quickly, I never completely outright own a rogue tho (like I do to most hunters) it is always a pretty close fight. I got eviscerated last night for 1450dmg tho which really put me down.

[Bearabald]

I only win about 50% of my fights with rogues. I am Holy spec which is probably the easiest pally spec for them to kill. On the otherhand, it makes me a much better secondary healer when grouped.