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Popo
10-16-2004, 01:03 PM
I don't know how valid this is, but I thought it was post worthy


http://home.comcast.net/~fetal/pentagon.swf


Obviously another conspiracy theory, but it makes you wonder doesn't it ?

Figtoria
10-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Very interesting.

What are they saying though? Are they saying it was a different plane which hit? Or no plane at all, but a missile?

Murrie
10-16-2004, 08:56 PM
freaking weird.

Post
10-16-2004, 09:21 PM
While it's hard to see how a 747 was the one to make the damage, it's not impossible to see. The conspiracy is missing one thing - motive. Since hitting the White House was only a piece of a larger puzzle, there wasn't much gained to hit the White House with a missile instead of the jet. And unfortunately, the motive is the most important thing at this point.

Roscoes_C&W
10-16-2004, 09:23 PM
Bush did it, cause he is evil.

Boom
10-16-2004, 09:31 PM
Bush isn't evil. I think he has many flaws but evilness isn't one of them.

Roscoes_C&W
10-16-2004, 09:33 PM
Ya well I would say launching missiles at the pentagon is evil, and he did it.

Boom
10-16-2004, 09:51 PM
Ok, I just watched the video and I'm really not convinced. I mean, they make it sound so shocking that you can't see the airplane in the pics of the outside of the pentagon. Do they expect it to be sitting up against the outside wall with its nose dented? It was flying at over 500 miles per hour, it went through the building and exploded and stuff. There are probably parts of airplane all thoughout that whole part of the building, but you shouldn't expect to see like a wing or a tail or anything. If you saw the films of that second plane hitting the world trade center you know what I am talking about. It looks like the building ate the plane. It just disappears into it and debris and fire flies out of the other side. You don't see any wings or tail parts floating to the ground.

There is a huge hole like 3 buildings inside the pentagon (which is a ring of buildings within a ring of buildings within a ring buildings). They say that hole doesn't look like it was caused by a big plane. At that point the plane had shattered in a billion pieces. That hole could have been caused by an engine or something.

Besides, if it wasn't flight 77 (or whatever number it was) that hit the pentagon, then what ever happened to that plane? It took off that day loaded with passengers. It didn't land anywhere. None of the family members of the passengers of that flight have ever heard from them or anything. So if that flight didn't smash into the pentagon, where did it go? If it crashed somewhere else we would know about it.

I love a good conspiracy theory, but this one doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense on any level. If it was a missle, wouldn't the terrorists have been bragging about the fact that they have missles? If it was a bomb, wouldn't the terrorist be bragging about the fact that they managed to infiltrate the pentagon? I mean the whole point of terrorism is to scare us and the idea of them having missles or infiltrating the pentagon is pretty scary.

Roscoes_C&W
10-16-2004, 10:07 PM
Besides, if it wasn't flight 77 (or whatever number it was) that hit the pentagon, then what ever happened to that plane? It took off that day loaded with passengers. It didn't land anywhere. None of the family members of the passengers of that flight have ever heard from them or anything. So if that flight didn't smash into the pentagon, where did it go? If it crashed somewhere else we would know about it.
Bush probably sent them off to fight in Iraq just like he is going to do you and me.

I love a good conspiracy theory, but this one doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense on any level. If it was a missle, wouldn't the terrorists have been bragging about the fact that they have missles? If it was a bomb, wouldn't the terrorist be bragging about the fact that they managed to infiltrate the pentagon? I mean the whole point of terrorism is to scare us and the idea of them having missles or infiltrating the pentagon is pretty scary.
No, Bush shot the missile into the pentagon and told us that it was am=n airplane so that he could go git that saddam hussein fella cause pops told him if he git that saddam hussein he gonna git a new truck with them naked girlie mud flaps.

Figtoria
10-16-2004, 11:35 PM
I thought the same thing - after all - it's' not like there was huge bits of the airplanes that hit the WTC lying around either.

It was interesting, but really didn't make a believable (or comprehensive) point, in my opinion.


Ok, I just watched the video and I'm really not convinced. I mean, they make it sound so shocking that you can't see the airplane in the pics of the outside of the pentagon. Do they expect it to be sitting up against the outside wall with its nose dented? It was flying at over 500 miles per hour, it went through the building and exploded and stuff. .

Roscoes_C&W
10-17-2004, 01:16 AM
therew werent huge bits of airplane around the WTC because everythign around the WTC was destroyed and burned for days

They mad ethe point in the video that the devestation at the Pentagon was isolated in a single area such as the area in front of the pentagon, like the grass and shit was all fine.

Grundy
10-17-2004, 10:01 AM
Well done video but I was consfused as to where this was going but I think I settled on the point that the damage done is due to a missle and not a plane. The further implication then is that US fired the missle on its own building.

What is missing from the conspiracy is what happened to the people? There were real people on that plane etc and they are supposedly dead. You would have to show some evidence to the contrary. That perhaps they are all still alive and living under witness protection or (more likely) adbuducted by aliens.

Murrie
10-18-2004, 10:35 AM
wait wait i know this one:
The goverment made up the flight record and fed it to the news outlets. The payed some actor types to look all sad and cry about their loved ones...

It was all retaliation against the interior decorator. He was using this unapproved mauve color in the renovations. They told them that it would cost billions to paint over. When congress voted down the paint money the pentagon came up with plan b.

Swifty_Johnson
10-18-2004, 11:16 AM
I've seen pictures of plane parts inside the burnt out shell of the pentagon, so this isn't factual. Planes are made of Aluminum, which when exposed to extream heat melts, which is why there isn't large parts of the plane left.

When the Valujet plane hit the swamp in Florida at 500 MPH, they didn't find much left of that plane either.

Swifty

Swifty_Johnson
10-18-2004, 11:29 AM
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

This debunks the webpage.

Swifty