View Full Version : lding out of daoc every min, but my internet still up.
Dunno whats wrong. The green circle with the L in it turns into a red box, then I ld. But I can still post and stuff. How do I check my internet to see if its working fast and stuff?
Tammarion
07-06-2004, 08:07 PM
Play City of Heroes. :D
Ivyrielle
07-06-2004, 08:40 PM
Link dead search at Camelotherald.com (http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/cgi-bin/support.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_sid=CnCO5Kfh&p_lva=&p_li=&p_page=1&p_cat_lvl1=%7Eany%7E&p_cat_lvl2=%7Eany%7E&p_search_text=link+dead&p_new_search=1&p_search_type=3&p_sort_by=dflt)
I am constantly going link-dead when playing DAoC. What could be the problem?I am constantly going link-dead when playing DAoC. What could be the problem?
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Going link-dead occasionally / A SERIOUS ERROR HAS OCCURRED
Assuming that you have all of your drivers up to date on your PC, as well as the fastest connection available to you, there is little that can be done to prevent going Link Dead. If you connection to our server is lost for any reason the "serious error has occurred" or "You have gone Link Dead" message will display on your screen. Please contact your ISP for further assistance.
You can also download a program called Visual Route from http://www.download.com. With this program you can ping our gateway address at 206.112.64.6, as this will give you detailed information as to where the connection is getting lost. Please note, the connection will always be lost right before your trace hits our firewall.
Try that program. It'll help figure out where the problem is. The other link above my have some stuff to help too. :)
Good luck!
Figtoria
07-06-2004, 09:10 PM
Play City of Heroes. :D
:stupid:
Allison
07-06-2004, 09:54 PM
Have you installed anything new recently?
I don't think I installed anything new recently. I ran that visualroute and the connection looks ok. 17 hops seems like a lot though. Maybe norton antivirus is running in the background too much, I just ran that recently and might have changed something.
Ooo, I lowered the paranoia settings on Norton and now I'm staying on daoc (for about 10 min now). So I guess that's it. Don't hax0r me while my shields are down.
Ooo, I lowered the paranoia settings on Norton and now I'm staying on daoc (for about 10 min now). So I guess that's it. Don't hax0r me while my shields are down.
What is the ip address we shouldn't haxor you at while your shields are down just so I don't accidentally haxor you.
:D
Bah, even with shields down I was still LDing real bad last night. I managed to stay online long enough to craft a bit, but then I decided it was fixed so I headed to frontiers and LD right away. Logged back in, DL 2 min later. I hope its better today.
Figtoria
07-07-2004, 04:52 PM
The world is telling you something.....
BUY CITY OF HEEEEEEEEROES!!!!
:p
Poop! Hoped it would be better today. Just lded after being on for maybe 5 min.
Ivyrielle
07-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Are you losing packets anywhere along those 17 hops? We had a LD problem for a couple weeks on our DSL once. We were losing packets all over the place. Hubberdoodle is quite technical, and so he called and yelled at the phone company a lot, made them see the error of their ways, and fixed whatever it was they had broken.
Your best bet may be to actually contact Mythic tech support and ask them for help. They'll have you send them that Visual Route thing. More than likely the problem is with your ISP, but they'll be able to help you pinpoint where the trouble is and get you on the right direction to fixing it up.
How do I check to see if I'm losing packets?
Damn, I was able to stay on for a while and craft a bit, then lded, then logged back in and LDed after like a minute. And that VisualRoute thingy seems to show that my connex is good.
Rooster
07-07-2004, 10:01 PM
You have XP right?
Use Pathping
pathping <insert IP here>
Tracing route to 206.112.64.6 over a maximum of 30 hops
0 boom [169.254.10.100]
1 216.85.192.81
2 216.85.191.93
3 206.222.120.6
4 lkchla-01-6-0-0-299.xspedius.net [206.222.127.234]
5 iah-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [63.149.128.137]
6 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.31.45]
7 dal-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.125]
8 dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.46]
9 POS5-2.BR2.DFW9.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.229]
10 0.so-1-3-0.XL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.99.214]
11 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.2.181]
12 0.so-6-0-0.TL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.193]
13 0.so-4-3-0.XL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.144.30]
14 0.so-7-0-0.WR2.IAD6.ALTER.NET [152.63.37.114]
15 so-1-0-0.ur2.iad6.web.wcom.net [157.130.59.82]
16 * * *
Computing statistics for 400 seconds...
Then it just stuck there. So I tried again and got the same exact thing. I guess it will say more stuff in 400 seconds.
Bah, after 400 seconds it just went away. The whole window went away.
Rooster
07-07-2004, 10:40 PM
Heh.. dont do that from the Run line.
Start -> Run -> CMD
You could do
pathping 206.112.64.6 > %userprofile%\desktop\test.txt from a run command
That should drop the text.txt file on your desktop and have what you want.
Rooster
07-07-2004, 10:41 PM
omg, boom is using an APIPA? (automatic private ip address)
You don't have a router or anything?
The router is next door in my landlord's house. I got a wire that comes out of a wall. I once upgraded the router software from here though.
I think I did the thingy wrong. I went to the run line and typed in pathping 206.112.64.6 > C:\Documents and Settings\Booms\Desktop\test.txt
It didn't work. :x
I can get up to level 17 on Defendthecastle now!
pathping 206.112.64.6 > C:\Documents and Settings\Booms\Desktop\test.txt
So what part of that is wrong?
I am gonna crash and try again tomorrow. :(
Noleader
07-08-2004, 01:54 AM
I would not be to concerned with the traceroute dieing after that many hops though. Most of the time when you get to a private network they block ping and traceroute ports.
I would do a Ctrl + Alt + Del and end any processes that are not completely required for the computer to run. If that resolves the issue it means one of the processes that are running at bootup is causing your LD issue.
It could also be some kid downloading MP3's on your network while you are trying to play DAoC. If you share a connection with the rest of your building I would put the most stock in this. It would explain the great pings but the strange LD pattern.
You could ask around the building and see if anyone else is noticing a slower connection then normal.
Let me know what you find... I will try my best to help you though this issue.
Well, I think the only people on my network are me and my landlord next door. And he has been out of town this week so he hasn't been hogging up the bandwidth. The rest of the internet doesn't seem slow at all. Webpages load up fast and stuff. When I ctrl-alt-del it says the only thing running is doac (unless I'm not looking at the right window or something).
I'm tempted to reinstall daoc, but omg what a pain in the butt.
Noleader
07-08-2004, 05:32 PM
Well, I think the only people on my network are me and my landlord next door. And he has been out of town this week so he hasn't been hogging up the bandwidth. The rest of the internet doesn't seem slow at all. Webpages load up fast and stuff. When I ctrl-alt-del it says the only thing running is doac (unless I'm not looking at the right window or something).
I'm tempted to reinstall daoc, but omg what a pain in the butt.
Yea you are looking at the Applications window. Try under the processes tab. If you are running windows XP it will show the user that is running the process, in your case you want to end most of the processes that belong to your username.
Most processes that windows needs to run will stop you from shutting them down with the exception of explorer.exe. Also if that does not resolve your issue try updating your network card drivers.
What I am trying to figure out is if the issue is software or hardware first to get a baseline to work from.
Noleader
07-08-2004, 05:33 PM
If you got a few min post a list of the active processes on your computer when you first log in. Maybe one of us can pick out one that should not be there.
Jammer
07-08-2004, 06:01 PM
This could be germane to the discussion...
===================================
Dark Age of Camelot
Test Version 1.70an Release Notes
July 8, 2004
===================================
NEW THINGS AND BUG FIXES
- After additional testing for lag issues, we've completed a significant analysis of the DAoC infrastructure and have uncovered what we believe is the key performance issue in New Frontiers. An account on the Pellinor server (username Boom) has accumulated so many characters, objects, loot items, trophies, plat and other storage intensive resources that he has technically "finished" Dark Ages of Camelot. A hot fix has been applied in this patch that will detect this "Boom" (aka Boooms, Bewm, Bewmy, Boomie, Boomy, Boooom, etc ad nauseum) and immediately disconnect him from the Mythic network. With this change, we believe so many resources will be freed that most people will now be able to play New Frontiers on a Palm V or that old 386 in the garage.
Thank you for playing Dark Ages of Camelot!
Riddick
07-08-2004, 06:31 PM
Heh, time for Stickybuffs to get in some RvR action!!!
Ok, I did that msconfig dealy and turned off everything under the startup tab. Then I was crafting on Boooms for like an hour with no ld, but soon as I switched to bewm in the frontier I lded within a minute.
Here is a screeny of my processes.
Oh, maybe I made my virtual memory too high? I kept getting popups saying winxp was raising my virt memory cuz it was too low. So I changed the settings so like the max size is as high as it will allow me to set it, like 4000 mb or something. The recommended size is like 768 I think. Should I lower it?
Badger
07-08-2004, 08:26 PM
Do you have any packet loss? When you follow the instructions on Camelotherald VR should show you a packetloss table on the trace.
Nothing is showing up in the packet loss % column of that table in visualroute.
Oooo, the ping of the node 2 hops away from me just jumped from 20ms to 700. If its been doing that alot, that could be the problem.
Rooster
07-08-2004, 11:47 PM
2 hops is still usually your ISP.
Sorry about that output line, it's supposed to work but I was in a hurry. :p
Riddick
07-09-2004, 12:50 AM
Here is a list of a bunch of items you might see in the processes tab of task manager. Can compare to make sure you don't have a virus running a process or anything.
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
Noleader
07-09-2004, 01:38 PM
Your processes list looks clean... I would contact the ISP and see if they are doing any kind of work on the line or know about the issue... 700 ping would that lasts a min would LD you from DAoC.
Also when you get a chance ask your landlord if anyone else is using the line or have him check his computer for a virus/spyware. If he has a virus or spyware it could be sucking a lot of the bandwidth your building network has.
Well, it seems like every night its getting a little better. I only LDed like 7 or 8 times last night, and was able to stay on for like an hour at one point. Hopefully they are fixing whatever is wrong with those hops.
I guess I should call my isp. I'm not even sure who they are though.
Tammarion
07-09-2004, 03:13 PM
Heh heh gotta watch out for companies like Lost-in-the-Bayou-net :D
spyder913
07-09-2004, 04:08 PM
the first summer I was playing DAoC (not long after L50 on crus) the first hop outside my house was messed up and constantly giving us huge pings. During those days I coudlnt' really play DAoC anymore, or even UT. I was play E&B during beta cause it was more forgiving, but eventually AT&T fixed it I guess.
DAoC is NOT forgiving at all, it is a pain in the ass.
Noleader
07-09-2004, 04:12 PM
BTW booms why is DAoC in your Quick Launch bar?
How many times have you been in the middle of something and thought "wait a tic... I need to get DAoC running" :rolly:
Riddick
07-09-2004, 04:22 PM
I put everything on my quicklaunch bar! I double layer it so my list of programs is on the bottom and all my quick launches are on the top row. I hate having icons on my desktop and using the Start->Programs menu is icky!
Hehehe, yeah. Its not about quickness, just about not wanting stuff on the desktop.
Been on for an hour and a half and on my third ld. And that Visual program showing good pings and no packet loss (maybe it gets better by the time I run that).
LD #4. This one was quick.
Man, this is weird. VisualRoute is showing no probs at all and I'm LDing every 10 seconds now.
Tammarion
07-09-2004, 11:14 PM
Can't you take a hint? Play City of Heroes! :D
Rooster
07-10-2004, 12:17 AM
Uninstall Norton crap.
Then try.
Armeliis
07-10-2004, 10:28 AM
When setting your virtual memory manually, set minimum and maximum to same amount. 500 should be good, if you have at least 512MB RAM. The reason for doing this is that your PC uses memory when it determines how much virtual memory you need when you give it a dynamic setting (2 different values for min. and max.).
If you haven't, DEFRAG YOUR HARD DRIVE!!!!! All MMORPGs have a very bad habit of creating fragmented files all over your hard drive. Try to defrag about once a week, but it does depend on how often/long you play though.
Also, check if your ISP is cable or DSL. There is a difference. Cable companies tend to fit 400 people on a single node, and that can be the reason for some of your problems. DSL is better. Of course, it could also be a problem with the node or wiring in their boxes, which can result in anything from intermitent connections to poor data transfer rates. So definately check with your ISP!
Rooster
07-10-2004, 10:37 AM
If you set your max virtual to 500 and you have 512MB, DAoC will have a fit. Set it to 3x your RAM - for min & max.
But, look into that 700ms stuff at 2nd hop - that's bad.
uninstalled Norton, ran adaware, defragged, reinstalled video and audio drivers. loaded up doac and lded in 2 min. Ran Visualroute immediately and no lag or packet loss.
Its a mystery!!!
That one "bad" hop that was hopping to 700ish the other day is sometimes hopping to 100 or 200 for a second, but then going back down to 9. That shouldn't be enough to kick me out of the game.
Grrr, now I can't stay in game for more than 30 sec, and VisualRoute says everything is fine. This is retarded.
Noleader
07-10-2004, 08:56 PM
Your network card might be shot...
For 30 bucks you could replace it to be sure.
When I downloaded the patches, the downloads were fast and smooth. My internet seems great except for daoc. :( Should I reinstall daoc before buying hardware?
I hate the idea of reinstalling, its such a pain and when it doesn't fix it I will be all bummed out.
Rooster
07-10-2004, 11:01 PM
I could probably send you a NIC if you want boomy. Gimme your address in a PM.
Ok, thanks Roo! Something is definitely weird. Can't stay in daoc for more than 30 sec now, but no problems doing anything else.
Rooster
07-11-2004, 12:22 AM
Any other online games giving you fits? (ie, when CPU usage is high)
Figtoria
07-11-2004, 09:02 AM
New nic is cheap Booom - even a name brand (D-link, Linksys, etc) should be about $20 - but I have to admit that doesn't seem likely if all your other internet activity is normal.
Do you have a router?
Any other online games giving you fits? (ie, when CPU usage is high)
Other online games???
Figgy, the router is next door at my landlord's house. Its a linksys thingy.
Figtoria
07-11-2004, 03:25 PM
Go re-set the router. Power it completely off and then on again.
If you're having problems ONLY with daoc and not with surfing or downloading or anything else like that - I start to wonder if it's a problem with the ports daoc uses. Maybe your landlord fiddled with the security settings there - or maybe the router itself is wonky.
Routers die all the time - though I like Linksys okay- I've had a number of people with defective ones - even right out of the box.
Ugggh, I hate talking to the landlord. Must be another way!
The good news is, its getting worse. I can't even stay on daoc for a few minutes now. So if whatever it is keeps getting worse, eventually I will be able to figure out what it is. If if those hops, other people will notice too and it will get fixed.
Anyone know any good free online games I can download? I wanna play something and I could see if the problem is just daoc.
Rooster
07-11-2004, 04:18 PM
You could try and get into the web control panel of the router and reset it from inside.
http://<ip.of.your.gateway>
If it's a linksys, use blank username & admin as the password.
Yeah, I got into it once before. There was a doac patch that broke the internet before. Everyone with a linksys router had to get into it and download the new patch for it or something. So once I get in there how do I reset it? Is there a button in there somewhere?
Tammarion
07-11-2004, 04:49 PM
Hm should be able to reset using some kinda admin command, but simply pulling the plug will do :)
I think I might uninstall and reinstall daoc.
I had an idea to run it under the SI client, see how that goes. Well it needed to download 100mg of stuff for the SI client. Its downloading perfectly smoothly. And daoc patch servers aint all that great usually. Its downloading at 50 kb/sec, and already at 50mg with no studders or drops or anything. Obviously my internet is fine. My daoc is just messed up. So when this is done I will try playing on SI client. Then I will try reinstalling all of daoc from scratch.
Morety
07-11-2004, 05:16 PM
Try d/l'ing and running This (http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button).
After that, download and run this (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html).
I had real bad ping problems playin UT at one point, now I run the adaware and spybuster things regularly. If you haven't done either, do them both now.
I run adaware constantly. Downloading spybot now.
LOL spybot keeps locking up when its removing the stuff it detected. I'm gonna go buy a playstation.
Ok, I got spybot working. It keeps finding something called DSO Exploit and it keeps saying it fixed it, but then I run it again and it finds it again. It has something to do with the registry. Maybe this is what is screwing me up?
This is the stuff that spybot can't seem to fix.
Figtoria
07-11-2004, 07:17 PM
I should have read this thread more carefully. Do you mean to tell me that you haven't yet downloaded and run spybot (don't forget to update it first!)???
/em spanks the naughty Booom
I'm not talking to you anymore until you've done that.
P.S. Just saw your last message. You have to run it in Safe Mode. Hit F8 as it's loading - then boot into safe mode and run it. You should also turn off System Restore. Right-click on My Computer and go to Properties.
THEN run Spybot.
Omg, I think spybot mighta fixed it! Spybot still showing that weird DSO thingy but it got rid of other thingies. I'm in daoc now and been in there for like 3 minutes so far with no ld! thats the best its been in a few days!
Spybot wasn't locking up like I thought. It just like freezes while its fixing stuff, and takes a loooooong time. With adaware, once it detects the stuff and you click the fix button it takes like a second, so I thought Spybot was broken.
I didn't have spybot cuz I thought adaware finds those thingies. I guess I gotta run em both.
Do I still get a spanky?
Poop, just ld out of daoc.
Ok, I turned off system restore, booted up in safe mode and ran spybot. It still can't get rid of those stoopid DSO thingies.
I got an idea though. My work laptop can run SI. I mean, I haven't tried it in a while, but it used to be able to run it. So I will bring it home tomorrow and try it. If it works on the laptop, then I will just reformat my entire desktop. If it doesn't work on the laptop, then my problem is with those hops.
Ok, bad news and good news and bad news.
Bad news, I'm still LDing every 2 min.
Good news, I called my cute Mardi-Gras girl and she is coming into town tonight.
Bad news, its already 8pm and she is still in Baton Rouge, Imma be up all night and get fired tomorrow.
Bah, she decided it too late.
Me bored!!!
I want to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!
AH HA!!!
I finally caught it! After a week now I finally managed to run VisualRoute just as that bad hop was acting up. Imma email the dude in charge of it now. Glad I didn't waste time reformating.
bloodreign
07-20-2004, 01:26 AM
boom, 17 hops is a lot of hops.
I kinda had this same problem when i first got my router installed. I kept getting packet loss. I know you're not really getting packet loss but your pings are slowing way down. I had like 6 hops or so and thought that was a big deal. I contacted my isp and they told me that they could rearrange my connection so it took less hops and/or tried to correct the packet loss. i thought that was pretty cool of my isp but later found out that it wasn't really their problem. my problem was that my router was overheating. haha.
when i first got my router, i pulled it out of the box and plugged everything in. didn't notice how warm it got after playing daoc for like 72 hours straight. lol. I looked in the box that came with the router and found little footpads that you had to place on the router to let the air flow. that helped quite a bit and my packet loss improved.
I then ran adaware and spybot. spybot picked up a lot of items that adaware could not. try running spybot and see what it comes up with. after eliminating like 60 spyware items from my system, daoc ran like a charm.
that visual route program is pretty cool but it only gives you a picture of what's going on. try pinging the mythic ip address for about 20-30 minutes and see if you're getting any packet loss or if your pings start slowing down at certain intervals, etc.
the command is ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -t
hit ctrl+c after 30 minutes is up and take a look at the ping times and the packet loss if any.
found this at another by running a search in google.
To fixe DSO exploit i d/l a small program named DSOstop you just have to run spybot v1.3 with all the upgrade then install DSOstop run spybot again and the problem DSO exploit is gone! you can get the program here http://www.nsclean.com/dsostop.html and it's free!
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