What's wrong with this sentence?

[Eiru]

"It gives all sides a chance to reinvigorate progress on the road map."

[]LoL[Harm]

well withdrawing is on the road map, however I don't think the settlements in the West Bank are...

[Eiru]

Sorry, let me be more focused: what's wrong with the sentence itself?

GHA! I can't take it any more. You can't "reinvigorate" "progress". You either invigorate OR make progress! GOD Bush can't even pad a sentence properly!

Where's Ronnie when you need him???

[Rooster]

Almost as good as "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

[Rooster]

Sorry, let me be more focused: what's wrong with the sentence itself?

GHA! I can't take it any more. You can't "reinvigorate" "progress". You either invigorate OR make progress! GOD Bush can't even pad a sentence properly!

Where's Ronnie when you need him???
Sure you can.

A marathon runner... starts invigorated ala making progress, 2/3 the way through, someone hands him a "Red Bull"... now he's reinvigorated therefore his progress has been reinvigorated.

[spyder913]

it's pretty redundant if you ask me

he could have just said 'progress'

[Rooster]

That would imply they were making no headway on their own. (It's true, but not something they would want to hear).

Versus helping along the process. ala giving the folks already going in the right direction a little push.

I don't find it a confusing statement at all.

[spyder913]

...don't think anyone said they were confused...

[Rooster]

Well, Eiru seemed a little ... concerned about what it means.

[Eiru]

Roo, a marathon runner may be at the starting line invigorated for his run but he has not made progress. During the race, he progresses but looses his vigor. Midway through the race, he grabs a Red Bull and becomes reinvigorated on the spot, making no actual progress. Reinvigorated, he returns to the progression of his race. The racer himself is invigorated. Not his progress. He makes progress, but that progress is not invigorated.

I'm not talking about political flipflops here, Roo. I'm talking about basic command of the English language. Bush would have been far better off either saying "This is a chance to reinvigorate the road map." or "This is a chance to make further progress on the road map." Instead, he sounds like some business shmuck trying desperately to sound more educated than he actually is.

I mean really. Good ol' Ronnie got away with saying things like "Evil Empire" and "We begin bombing in 10 minutes." He was never short for words and could improv with the best of them. Compared to Ronnie, hell compared to Clinton, Bush's C average is showing big time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I have no problem with a Republican Presidency. Why, for the love of God, did it have to be this bumbling nincompoop?

Jesus, it has come to this: me pining for Reagan.

[Airr]

Jesus, it has come to this: me pining for Reagan.
He really is beside himself on this...:rolly:

[Eiru]

Just thought of one of my favourite Reaganisms (hope I remember this right):

Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall.

[Rooster]

Eiru, I'm afraid you're incorrect.

A marathoner does NOT stop to drink... he is always making progress.

And you can't invigorate a road map. And if he had said "further progress" well no shit, but it doesn't say HOW you're feeling about the improved speed of progress.

It's a perfectly legit statement. Sorry you don't get it.

[Allison]

Sorry, Eiru. I have to agree with Rooster. It's certainly a clumsy choice of words, but I think it's gramatically correct.

[spyder913]

he is always making progressNot when he stops to use the porta-potty. (It happens!)

[Hammer]

He paid for that microphone Mr. Eiru ;) There's your Ronnie:)

[Eiru]

The dictionary definition of reinvigorate is "To give new life or energy to." If the road map is a process, you can certainly give new life or engergy to the process.

I take back what I said about the marathoner stopping. The marathoner always makes progress, but his vigor will wax and wane. The reinvigoration of the marathoner is separate from the progress he makes.

Ailia, the statement may be grammatically correct, but it's still bad use of English. Ronnie's statement was simple, direct, and powerful. When has Bush ever come close to such clean and direct use of the language?

[Rooster]

Axis of Evil.

No, the road map is not a process. It's a plan. There's a difference. And hence your confusion.

The statement is fine. Just a little more complicated than most statements.

[Allison]

Process, plan, method, map, blueprint ... whatever. This is getting silly. :p

[Eiru]

Oh, I don't like it. And I'll find out why!

[Allison]

Hehehe. I don't like it either. It's a clumsy, over-complicated choice of words. And I think he should be fired because of it. :D