View Full Version : buff shearing and you!
crendalerst
03-15-2004, 01:06 PM
Well DD has gone and made a guild together with TicTacs on Pendragon.. Last night was our first time trying rvr there with all of the new changes. Buff shearing is a lot of fun, but I found that it takes quite a bit of power. Also the ae buffs are nice, but even worse than shearing in terms of power.
As for the overall effect of buff shearing, It's not nearly as major as I think people expected it to be. Not a lot of people are willing to spec all the way to 50 to get the uber ae shears, so it's mainly just ST shears you have to deal with, and getting more than one of those off in a fight doesn't seem to be very likely, just because there's too much other stuff going on for healing classes to really concentrate on shearing that much.
So although the shears are nice and advantageous, this is definitely NOT the end of tank classes.
P.S. RR10L10 Cabalists can nuke hard.
Omg Dont Buff Me I Dont Want To Be Sheared!!!!!
Loraine
03-15-2004, 01:46 PM
Maybe need to look at strategy here - healer who heals and healer who shears ;)
I am thinking this will be a good way to get the most benefit from the new opportunities.
hehehe, i like how our spec is finally getting some love crend :D
PoxTheSmall
03-15-2004, 04:38 PM
Hey Crend, you guys have room for a VW, Druid, NS or Ment on Pendragon?
hehehe, i like how our spec is finally getting some love crend :D
I knew you were always jealous of the chics digging on my nature spec dr00id Banananananananananananananananana
;)
crendalerst
03-16-2004, 12:28 PM
well the problem with having one druid that heals and one that shears, is that means that our nature druid would be healing instead of rooting, and rooting is more important than shearing. One combo I think that would work extremely well though would be to shear str, str/con and then get an eld or champ to debuff str/con, any caster would be perma-rooted from that I think.
Pox I'm not sure if we have room on pend or not, I'll have to talk to Thumos, he and I are the GMs of the guild there, and I'm not sure if we're allowing people outside of TT and DD in yet..
PoxTheSmall
03-16-2004, 01:34 PM
A good possible makeup is 3 druids, 1 bard, 1 warden and 3 tanks. Basically, 1 druid spends the whole time rooting, 1 spends their time healing and 1 shears constantly. Also the addition of the nurture druid assures that you'll always have really good resists up constantly.
It'd be interesting to see the enemy casters getting stripped of dex/qui as well, considering their casting speed go from fast to, pretty slow.
6 druids, one void eld with body debuff, one animist.
Noone hits harder than an animist on a body debuffed target baybee.
P.S. Body debuffs STILL broken in pve thank you mythic.
PoxTheSmall
03-16-2004, 03:17 PM
Lol! 6 nurture druids all self buffed probably can kill a tank train as long as 3 of those druids have gp.
Btw boom, you have no bard in that group makeup. No speed, no cc...that'd stink
spyder913
03-16-2004, 06:18 PM
on top of that.. 2 animists would hit harder than one debuffed animist
and pbae hits harder than debuffed animists =P
Btw boom, you have no bard in that group makeup. No speed, no cc...that'd stink
Don't need no speed. To busy killing and getting rps to run around. Druids gots roots, dont need no others CC. So what if they can cast? We got 6 spreadhealers.
2 animists would hit harder than one debuffed animist
I'm not sharing mah killspam with some other gimp animist!
pbae hits harder than debuffed animists
I wanna keel them one at a time and savor it.
spyder913
03-16-2004, 07:14 PM
i think boom's losing it
PoxTheSmall
03-17-2004, 01:44 AM
Whatever it is you think he's losing, I'd bet he lost a LOOOOONG time ago :)
Coplann
03-17-2004, 04:09 AM
well the problem with having one druid that heals and one that shears, is that means that our nature druid would be healing instead of rooting, and rooting is more important than shearing. One combo I think that would work extremely well though would be to shear str, str/con and then get an eld or champ to debuff str/con, any caster would be perma-rooted from that I think.
not since 2 years ago
those -30 to -40 Str/Con less a champ would do after buff shearing wont root anyone.
PoxTheSmall
03-17-2004, 01:25 PM
I'm wondering if a champ debuffed then a druid sheared, if the original debuff value would be in play as the pre-shear stat loss...if you follow what I'm getting at.
laisrean
03-17-2004, 09:53 PM
Do clerics still get longer range and faster casting shears? I don't think its something you're likely to run into 8v8, but I don't usualy get to run in 8v8 :P
Coplann
03-18-2004, 04:50 AM
dont know Pox. as for the rooting thingy:
from 1.62D
- Strength (and strength only) debuffs and disease spells should no longer reduce a player's encumberance below their unbuffed maximum. Debuffers were using the fact that you could reduce an enemy to 0 movement speed as an effective one minute total snare with no counter, which was not the intention of strength debuff spells.
this means if a target isnt encumbred without buffs he wont be encumbred with debuffs.
PoxTheSmall
03-18-2004, 11:49 AM
Man, they've ruined something I used to do all the time on my SM. I'd double str/con + str debuff casters and perma root...or on pox with the 118 delve str/con...
That's kinda weak, they should allow it to perma root if you encumber your target.
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