Ailiagrundy, I have an idea for fin tree.

[Boom]

I was trying to think of a way we can do fin tree, if we don't have 3 tanks. Tankfins is fun, but its tough to get all the tanks to show up.

Ok, I cast my tanky/taunty shroom. We buff him up to the moon. I have him pull (crappy thing is, he only has a 1000 range on his taunt, so he will have to be pretty close to the tree, and this method won't work at all at fin2, but it will work well at baby fin tree, which is always open, and 2 fins per pull is still pretty nice).

We all line up behind the tank shroom, so no matter who the adds are going for, they have to pass over the tank shroom. As soon as I have the tank pull, I start spamming my shroom pbaoe. The shroom pbaoe is horribly bugged, it doesn't do the damage it delves for and stuff, but it will at least get the fins on the tank shroom. One good thing about shroom pboae, I don't think I share agroo with the shroom, I think the shroom gets all the aggro. I've never had a mob leave the shroom and go for me when I've used the shroompbaoe. I'm not sure, but I'm hoping that even if the initial pbaoe gets resisted, the fin adds will go for the shroom rather then a random group member who hasn't done anything at all. When I used to tank fins with my shade, I would use my isntadd to grab my add and it always went for me even when the dd was resisted.

Once all the fins are on the shroom, I continue to pbaoe till I'm at 50% mana. I don't expect this to do a ton of damage to the fins (it should, but like I said, the spell is way borked. Animists wisps used to have the same bug where they didn't do the right kind of damage, and they got fixed but pbaoe didn't. I don't understand it, but like lots of stuff is supposed to boost damage over delve and none of that stuff works for the pbaoe). Anyway, even if it isn't doing huge damage, I think half a mana bar of pboae will at least get the fins stuck on my shroom pretty good. Then Flyhead and Figgyzap and whoever should be able to get in there and take the fins out with real pbaoes.

Tank shroom with fullbuffbot buffs is way tough. I have no doubt that Ailiadot can keep him alive no problem with her hots. Expecially if I toss out a 25% absorb in there somewhere.

Ok this post is already too long and complicated. Let me summarize.

1. Tankshroom pulls fins.
2. Tankshroom pbaoes as fins run over him, grabbing adds.
3. All fins on tankshroom, I keep shroompbaoing, Ailia hots shroom.
4. Manachanters/elds go in and pbaoe killing all fins.
5. Dape gets the firebrand drop.

I am pretty damn sure that numbers 1-3 will work as I expect them too. The only question I have is whether flyhead will peel the fins with his first pbaoe and die. We can experiment with how long you wait before you go in and pbaoe. I have a feeling that the shroom will hold agroo well enough for this to work.

If this works, it could be almost as good as focus pulling was before the nerf. If they ever fix shroom pbaoe to work the way it should, this will be better than focus pulling ever was.

[Allison]

I'm game!

Levelling has realllly slowed down since the FS nerf. I'll try any crazy scheme you can think of. ;)

[Dape]

Gotta love Boom. He knows everything and even saves the firebrands for me.
:wgrin:

[Boom]

Heck, I don't have to save the firebrands for you, don't they always drop in your inventory? :rolly:

[Figtoria]

And I can make it to the fin tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are all 8 million levels ahead of me now, but at least I'll have someone to talk to!!


/em jumps up and down doing the happy dance!!

[Boom]

Hehehee, ok Figgy. Boooms is at housing right now I think. When I get home from work, I WON'T take him to the island of no Figgness. I will go exp in CM until Ailiagrundy are ready to go to CF. If fin tree is taken, we can try this out at babyfin tree.

[Morety]

Leaving out the tanks again :(

[Boom]

I would rather do tankfins to be honest. Its way more fun. Just gotta get the tanks. With Chunky and Secretpokers we need one more. Maybe tankshroom could be the third tank?

[Coplann]

I hate fins.

Tolpan never ever killed a fin and still is 50. woot :D

[Dape]

I love fins. If you doing fins let me know. If i can't leech i'll tank or heal. Come to Papa firebrand.

[Jammer]

Focus pulling seems a little slower, but I still seem to do it just fine. Is it just the pace you are concerned with? Just trying to understand where the traditional FS group is breaking down for you, because that is still how Hammer, Dwig and I have been farming/PLing.

Jammer

[Boom]

Yeah, its mostly pace. With old focus you pull the fins and the pboaers can immediately start pboaeing and not get agroo. Also even without pbaoeing the focus would do enough damage to kill fins in a reasonable amount of time.

Now focus does hardly any damage to the fins and as soon as someone pbaoes he gets agroo. Its a little safer if you wait for fins to get to 50%, but it can take a looooooong time for focus to do that much damage, and pbaoes will still get agroo sometimes. One fin pull takes at least 4 times as long as it used to.

What mobs are you focus pulling Jamms? If they lower level then fins its probably not as bad.

Coplan, Boomey (manament) dinged 50 soloing in CM, never touched a fin, it was awesome. :D But CM mobs too low level for me and ailiagrundy to get good exp from when we are grouped.

[Allison]

What Boom said. Also, the biggest PBer we have, usually, is Flyhead. He's only 46. On uber Fins, his FS barely touches them before he goes oop.

[Hammer]

I can see that being a problem. We mostly do Knights in DF these days. It takes a lot more mana than it used to but we still ok. I have ser 3 and crack 5 really helps with down time. Dwig can usually land a good dot at 50% to speed things up a bit. Of course we're talk a 50 chanter, 50 ment and 50 nurture druid.

[Boom]

Btw, we tried this out last night and it was relatively successful. Some things worked better then expected, some not quite so well.

For instance. When my shroom pulled, all the adds went right to the shroom. I didn't have to rely on the shroom pboae to grab the adds. This alone makes this strat a lot better than I hoped it would be.

On the down side, the shroom pbaoe is so damn sucky. If you ever hear an animist bitch about this, he is not exaggerating. A full bar of mana barely takes the fins down below 90%. It makes baby jeebus cry. Maybe when I get level 48 pbaoe it will be slightly better. Anyway, our real pboaers had to start pboaeing fins with 90% life and would get agroo alot. The shroom would usually keep agroo on the fin it was meleeing, but not the adds. I would spam bt on the highest level pbaoer (flyhead) and he would basically tank the fins as the lower pbaoers finished them off. If we have at least 2 pbaoers at level 45+ I think we can kick ass with this strat. With just flyhead at 46, and our other pbaoers at 41 and 40, it was rough, but still better than focus pulling.

Oh, and Morety, we definitely could have used a tank or two to peel fins off flyhead once he got agroo. :)