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MickeyFinn
05-31-2008, 06:55 AM
At this point in the gaming experience (Level 50-60), the conqueror is by far the most overpowered class in AoC. We keep two in our group at all times, so that we can benefit from multiple sets of auras.

As the only healer, I have a tendency to go down once in a while because we're an AoE group, but these guys pick me up immediately with that instant-rez stuff. On top of that, both of the conqs have recently picked up multiple buffs that increase stamina regen to the point where they literally never run out of stamina in a battle. As long as I never run out of mana to heal (it's tough to make that happen), they never stop swinging every combo that isn't on a cooldown.

Broken!

Today in a group of only 4 (myself, the 2 conqs, and our caster), a full group of 6 known gankers who were all 4+ levels higher than us jumped us while xp'ing. 5 minutes later they all lay dead, and we stood over their bodies. They couldn't figure out why I wouldn't die, but the truth is I died many times- I was just immediately rez'd, and cast my insta heals before going down again. They never stood a chance. B R O K E N.

otwist
05-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Yes the balance aspect of this game is far out, not even close.
Ive grouped with a 50 something conq, and i just feel stupid by comparison.

Coplann
05-31-2008, 03:17 PM
sucks. I want to play a Conqueror and I suppose they will be nerfed soon :(

well, I will still play one. Iam used to playing Champs so I will get used to playing a nerfed Conq ^^

spyder913
05-31-2008, 03:27 PM
Hehe.. and the conq forum is full of morons who complain that guardians can outdamage us with polearms.

I have a feeling that in pvp conqs will become high priority targets like bards were, since if you're hitting a conq you are not proccing Furious Inspiration, which means no combat rez.

Coplann, IMO, conqs are what champions should have been. But in reality I guess they're more akin to a skald, since they were group friendly.

Coplann
05-31-2008, 05:07 PM
ya I will still start as Conq. I like the class concept too much

Achilleus
06-01-2008, 01:48 PM
Looking on the forums I see alot of people calling for different classes to get nerfed because they can't beat them. People are whining for PoM to get nerfed, Demos and Conqs as you say. They are going to have to nerf every class to make people happy. They need to leave everything alone and let people work out their strategies.

Bedpost
06-01-2008, 02:50 PM
I don't see how anything can be declared over powered yet. No matter how many people are level 80 already there's just to few of days played ot have explored all the skills at this point.

I really hope that Funcom waits at least a couple months to let things play out before they even start considering nerfing anything. Nerfs suck

Coplann
06-01-2008, 05:38 PM
ya they should rather improve other classes than swing the nerf bat. also there will never be 100% balance with more than 1 class. ;)

nukor
06-02-2008, 10:42 AM
Answed my own question. Move along, nothing to see here. :)

Jammer
06-02-2008, 10:15 PM
Sweet, I just rolled one! Hopefully I can make some hay while the sun still shines. :)

Jammer

Coplann
06-03-2008, 03:07 AM
its funny that there is a lot of QQing going on on the Conq boards because of low damage and defense rating past level 50. some argue that beside the rez ability the class is completely useless. ^^

MickeyFinn
06-03-2008, 07:18 AM
That's insane. They have the ability to keep a group's stamina at max throughout an entire fight

Bedpost
06-03-2008, 09:35 AM
That's insane. They have the ability to keep a group's stamina at max throughout an entire fight

That sounds like someone crying that Wardens are great because they provide Bubble for the group.

group utility <> fun or over powered feeling to the person playing it.

It may very well be over powered, wasn't trying to indicate it's not... just saying from the player side it may not feel that way.

spyder913
06-03-2008, 01:20 PM
so far, both abilities people say are great and/or are ALREADY whining about (see above) require zero real interaction from the conqeror, so Bedpost's warden response is right on the money.

Coplann
06-03-2008, 03:14 PM
cool, so I can join group and go afk all day :D

Slicks
06-03-2008, 04:03 PM
cool, so I can join group and go afk all day :D
reminds me of bards in daoc pve farming...... /af macswaeney turn on end song and go to sleep:fuct:

spyder913
06-03-2008, 04:53 PM
cool, so I can join group and go afk all day :DYour heal and rez both proc off of hitting things, so no. They just don't require any active input to happen, so it's not strategy or even any more challenging than having someone else in your group do it. I don't have too much of a problem with this mechanic, but I would probably prefer the rez being a "get up you lazy bum" shout that you have to activate after FI is fully stacked.

Coplann
06-03-2008, 05:39 PM
when do I get the heal and rez? do I have to spec for it or are they free abilities?