Age of Conan anyone?

[Coplann]

anyone going to play AoC?

Iam considering it. The combat and magic system sounds awesome and maybe its the fresh and new many of us are looking for.

PvE and PvP including guilds beeing able to build cities/fortresses and to defend them against other guilds.

also new: formations and mounted combat (i.e. a phalanx of spear-users versus a heavy cavalery attack etc...)

4 base classes, 3-4 main classes per base class and a couple prestige classes to add more flavour on top of it.

[Morety]

The guild cities thing sounds like fun.

I'm not too likely to play it immediately (didn't realize they were actually going to release this game). I'm liking TF2 currently.

[spyder913]

I've heard a lot of hype for this game, but I still know little about it.

[malkovich]

when is it due out ? beta ?

[Elvtin]

I'm seriously considering it.. I've only ready a few things about it but the combat system i've heard is pretty unique. Almost like having to do a button sequence for attacks.. But I might be mixing up games.. hehe..
But I am prolly going to check it out.

[MickeyFinn]

Thats the 360 game :p

[bleedboy]

i plan on trying it out..i have been following it for about a year. i think it comes out at the end of march..

[malkovich]

oh , not too far off ...

what is the latest guesstimate for a warhammer release ?

i would imagine i will try both but stick with neither , might be done with MMO's for reals , at least until we see MMO 2.0 and some real ingenuity ...

[MickeyFinn]

June if you're lucky. You're not.

[Golmacmourna]

Amazon says WH is coming out feb 28. That, to my mind, is pure fantasy. But who knows. It's going to be DAOC with orks and slightly better graphics. They haven't even managed to get the quality to the same level as WoW on basic issues like how responsive the interface is.

Conan is following in the footsteps of Shadowbane. There'll be guild-built cities that can be sieged and destroyed. Apparently, you will be able to use war-mammoth in battle. However, you need to preorder to reserve your mammoth. Do it now! They're nearly extinct.

The only thing MMOwise that's piquing my interest is the Agency. Unfortunately, since it doesn't have elves, it means alot of girls won't be interested, and without chicks, what's the point of playing an MMO? Other than pretending to be a chick, I mean.

Warhammer makes me so angry when I sit down to play it that there's just no *way* I could get a character past 10th level. No other MMO has aggravated me so much. Mostly because other MMOs don't feel so weird and half-assed.

Conan strikes me as something which is utter bullshit because they can talk their asses off about how interesting their combat is, but at the end of the day, the best it could *possibly* be is like double dragon without the ability to jump. Or throw things. Or pick up knives. But I'll probably at least try conan since there's the potential there to be a hot chick riding a war mammoth.

[malkovich]

"You're not."

im not ?

[Elvtin]

"You're not."

im not ?


I'm not?!

[malkovich]

who said that ?!

[Coplann]

I dont except WAR until the end of the year.

AoC is hardly related with Shadowbane. the PvP is separated from the main PvE just like in DAoC (you can have guild cities in PvE and keeps in PvP). anyway, mounted combat and formations sound awesome. and the fact that the magic system involves alot of risks if you intend to spam your spells on poor melee types in PvP ;)

[Golmacmourna]

shadowbane was about building sand forts so that someone else could knock them down, and making the largest possible minotaur available. There are sand forts in conan, therefore conan isn't just similar to shadowbane, they're actually the same game with a reskin. And the minotaur is now *so* big, that it's a war mammoth.

[Coplann]

in shadowbane there were no save pve zones however, except for the lowbies maybe, dont remember exactly. its main problem was the griefing, well and the crappy graphics.

edit:
I was going to get the german copy, but after I read that it will be censored so it contains less violence and gore I will import it from north america. :|

all that crap and violence in the movies and news and parents not caring what their children are doing, but its all the fault of the evil "killer"-computer games and the even more evil adult players...

[Golmacmourna]

Honestly, the fact that the germans are somewhat delicate about violence is one of the reasons I love them so much.

[nukor]

I will check out this game if some Lions are in it. It does not look like a game where you want to be solo all the time.

[kitty]

im debating both..prolly try both, who knows where i will end up, still liking lotro atm :)

[Noleader]

Looks interesting... detailed information seems hard to come by but all the stuff I have seen looks interesting.

[Golmacmourna]

mammoth!!

[Noleader]

One of the confusing things about all the vids I saw is: Is the game diablo style camara or WoW/DAoC style?

[Coplann]

third person afaik

[Riddick]

One of the confusing things about all the vids I saw is: Is the game diablo style camara or WoW/DAoC style?

I think those are really the same thing now, I see alot of people playing PvP especially with a camera angel similar to Diable in WoW.

The demo's from GenCon had AoC in a behind the character type position like the default WoW/DAoC style.

[bleedboy]

Bumping this because its due out next month. I plan on trying it out...already pre-ordered. I am curious if any Lions still plan to play.

I think i get a free mammoth from the pre-order.

[Noleader]

I plan on giving it a go and I know Bear is planning on it as well... If it is as good as all the reviews say I think it will be the game I play and not warhammer.

[nukor]

I am leaning twords at leat trying the game. Im in :)

[spyder913]

Has anybody actually played it yet?

[nukor]

Anyone buying the collector's edition and want to let me have one of the 5 friend passes? :)

[bleedboy]

i didnt get into the beta, but i have read many reviews about it. I have seen videos on it. To me AoC and Warhammer are the 2 most promising looking games. I didnt play Warhammer either, but i will get that too i am sure.

[Cavan]

Ughh... still have to wait until May 20th.... but yeah... I might give it a try....

[nukor]

OK just preordered and got the 3 day early play bonus. Lets make sure we are all on the same server...PLEASE :)

[Noleader]

How are you going to play 3 days in advance when you will not have the game yet?

[Bearabald]

Yep yep.. I will be there if it is even 1/2 as good as it looks in those trailers. I cant imagine it will be THAT good... but like i said, 1/2 that good will still be fantastic.

Mounted fighting! Decapitation! M rating (less kiddies)! OMFG... BEAR shaman class! Real-time adjustments for positional blocking!



For all those that havent watched some of the videos, check it out.

[Golmacmourna]

Rated M, For Mammoth.

[Noleader]

Watch: http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&template=content&func_id=2346&table=CONTENT

[Bearabald]

Watch: http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&template=content&func_id=2346&table=CONTENT


Yep... no fricking way it can be that good. I will settle for 1/2 that good

[MickeyFinn]

Does it matter what race you choose? I don't want to be an Alb.

[bleedboy]

not sure if there is something other than a human..

[nukor]

The preplay bonus for pre-ordering will open up the game servers on May 17th. Anyone not pre-ordering with this bonus will be allowed in starting on May 20th. If you have the preplay bonus, you are allowed to download the software starting on the 14th of May.

[Morety]

That movie does make it look very cool. I believe I'm in to give it a shot.

We must all be sure we're on the same server/side/whatever so we can make a guild city and own everyone/everything in the most brutal of fashions! (/Kzar)

[bleedboy]

^^^^

Yea Mo!

I think you have to go to Funcom between May 2nd and May 17th to register for the download or something to that effect.

[Muadi]

The graphics on the video looked really nice. Anybody know of the minimum requirements? I know for sure that my machine is pretty old, not sure if it will work.

[Morety]

Upgrade already would ya muadi?

[bleedboy]

Maudi...i think it was something pretty robust. If you have an old shitty pc, i am sure it would be playable, but just not a great experience.

[Muadi]

m0, send me more money!

[Morety]

m0 money otw!

[Noleader]

I got into their limited beta weekend (this weekend only). Will test it out and let you guys know what I think.

[Noleader]

First thoughts are (PvP only since that is what the beta is):

- Fast Paced
- Healing is a bit different and take some time to get use to
- Melee is very involved... I tanked down their warror class on my ranger cause he was not moving around.

All in all it is fun and exciting. Hopefully I can get into the Open Beta and test some of the PvE elements and more open PvP stuff (very limited beta right now).

[Elvtin]

ooo... involved combat.... that is good. cause /face - style, style, style ect. ect... gets boring.

[bleedboy]

sounds cool...game is out in a few weeks...i really hope that it pretty much done.

[MickeyFinn]

Yeah, I saw that you can hit different parts of the body and adjust what your shield is guarding.

[Bearabald]

I have been talkign to a few people that have played it in beta and they cant believe they are releasing it so soon and swear it wont be ready in time. But then again, what mmorpg is ready at release nowadays?

[Noleader]

Well the only thing I can see that needs a little work still is sometimes I spells get locked up and will not cast, but for the most part all that is left is some balance issues (which I think this PvP weekend is for).

[bleedboy]

does it appear to be a game that will be decent?

[Noleader]

Based off everything I saw (not all that much) I am convinced that it will be a fun game. I am going to get it.

[Golmacmourna]

K. At spyder's urging, I'm going to try a guy of Xotli (c'mon guy!), and if that doesn't work out (and it won't), I'll be a Rang-ah.

who are we pwning and where are we pwning them?

[bleedboy]

i am hoping to be whatever is the most overpowered from the start...but due my nature, i will probably try an assasin.

[Noleader]

If you are looking for overpowered make a Ranger

Edit: All classes can put points into hiding so everyone can be a stealther and everyone can put points into detection so anyone can find them (Searching for stealthers is an active skill). That being said with a ranger right now you can drop a target (any class save a tank) before they reach you... and when they reach you the bow is still a viable weapon. I normally just root them and then run away to shoot at range some more.

[bleedboy]

hmm...was just checking out the ranger too. Is there a limited amount of characters you can make in the beta? I wonder if they limit when released.

[spyder913]

I am thinking Conqueror for me at the moment, based on the website's info.

[nukor]

I'm just glad to see a game a bunch of us will try. Looking forward to it.

[Yoggoth]

No Destroyer class :(

http://lh5.ggpht.com/conan.the.legend/RfQX0I1IDmI/AAAAAAAAAAs/tc0D0765ghs/2_Wilt_Andre_Arnold.jpg?imgmax=512

[spyder913]

It is so strange for Arnold to look small...

[Yoggoth]

There is actually a site dedicated to Arnold's height
http://www.arnoldheight.com/

[spyder913]

haha.. the internet is so awesome.

[nukor]

If we get a good number of lions playing, I will take on a healing class (priest of Mitra or a Tempest of Set). If just a few of us probably an Assassin.

[Bearabald]

Classes (http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&func_id=1084&table=PUBLISH&template=news_features_game&selected=1084)

I believe I HAVE to at least try the Bear Shaman :)

I would also be very interested in trying a Conqueror

[MickeyFinn]

I'm going pure healer priest style, if anybody is willing to go Guardian

[Noleader]

Not really sure what I am going to roll yet. So many different classes...

[MickeyFinn]

Could you resist having a pure healer behind you though NL?

[Syri]

If I can get some cash together (out of work at the moment) I'll be trying this for sure, really looks interesting.

[Coplann]

got it on preorder. will probably need 1-2 more weeks to ship it to me, but I will be on the US servers :)

[Elvtin]

Was looking for video's of the combat and found a couple if anyone else is a bit curious and hasn't seen it yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAzH5gmlJF4

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/27069

[Bearabald]

I go on vacation of May 11th and will be back on May 18th... perfect timing almost :) Soooooo excited about it

[Golmacmourna]

Woot! I can't wait to be bearing. The new 'plan' looks like spyder will be a conqueror and I'll be a bear, and he'll go around saying 'lookee here, sonny... you haven't prepared that campfire correctly', and then *I* will devour them.

later, we will pvp with a barbarian and a guy of Xotli (who will, in all likelyhood, knowing my deep emotional issues, be a girl)

[Hulrig]

there are a lot of good aspects of the game. if they can get them together before release will be great. There will be a big patch the day after release to fix the things that they haven't fixed yet since it went gold.

The Conqueror is a fun class, like a Captain in Lorto, but with some added twist of a gaurdian. They can duel wield or use a two handed weapon but no shield. So far the two handed weapon worked the best. but that is before they have tweaked some of the balancing issues that they have to do.

If you pre-order with gamestop you get a free war mammoth to use when you hit level 40, thats if they are still offering them. Think best buy has the war rhino. not sure. haven't heard much more on it.

[Syri]

i've ordered mine from dvd box office, so i'll have a us copy, hopefully not too long after release

[nukor]

I am leaning towards a Tempest of Set. Is it time to talk about a type of server? I vote PvP. Kill whomever whenever sounds great to me.

[Bearabald]

With how things turned out with WoW, I would say PvE server and people that want to be PvPish can flag themselves that way. PvP servers are fun for a while, but get old fast (especially when you try leveling alts).

I Used to be very pro-pvp server back in WoW, but I look at that as being a big mistake. Yeah, there were a few nights were good fights broken out that were very enjoyable, but overall it wasnt worth it.

[nukor]

Don't get me wrong, I will go wherever the Lions are. Just wanted to float the idea out and get the discussion going.

[Bearabald]

Yea, considering this thread is about to go to page 5 we probably need to a forum soon :)

As far as servers go, I will sacrifice my personal preference to get us all on the same server, whichever kind that ends up being.

My thoughts are if you go on a pve server, people that want to pvp can at least flag themselves that way. If you go on a pvp server, there is nothing people that want to be pve can do to escape it. So overall a pve server can satisfy more people.

Please oh please dont let a WoW repeat happen is all i ask, lol

[]LoL[Harm]

PVP servers, as was witnessed in WoW only rewards those who are able to level quick enough to stay with the higher level population. Those that level more slowly are picked to death by the higher level competition.

On Stormreaver it took me three weeks to go up one level due to the continual ganking while attempting to level up in STVale other places were not better, Un'Goro was unuseable as well (the sometimes provided solution that people should go elsewhere and not use that specific game content was not a solution, and just a shitty bandaid). The inability to level or enjoy game content was a waste of my money and time.

Though my input has little validity, I have no plans of playing any new MMORPG's ;)

[Bearabald]

About Preordering...

I have never been through the preordering process online, especially one with so many 'extras' involved. From what I see online, you can preorder from retailers like Gamestop and you will receive the information via email (ie. Key Code). You then are able to download the client and start playing 3 days before the release date.

So... when preordering it doesnt matter which level of shipping you choose since you will be already playing the game when it arrives?

Where is everyone preodering from? and what suggestions do you have?

I plan on just getting the regular dvd version... I dont need the collectors crap.

[MickeyFinn]

I'm preordering mine through Amazon. Who wants a healer/cc?

[Noleader]

I vote PvE Server for the reasons listed above. As for pre-ordering I have no clue and wonder the same.

[Bearabald]

Only a couple of the retailers seem to include the following information. I dont see this on newegg (unless i am just missing it).

Only certain places are offering the 3day early access?

It wouldnt usually matter to me, but i am on vacation until the 20th, so a couple free days of no work and a new game sounds enjoyable. (btw.. i know i am kidding myself, since it will probably just be a crashfest)

Edit:
Actually GoGamer (http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=21524443&categoryId=65176) explains their offer nicely, but doesnt mention the ingame bonuses.

Gamestop (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=64020) site states
"Pre-order Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures at GameStop and receive an exclusive in-game mountable character: The War Mammoth - In addition, you will immediately receive the Mammoth Traveler's Bag giving you 8 additional inventory slots to help you in your quests. Offer good while supplies last. Online customers will be emailed a code and instructions on how to redeem the in-game mount. Please provide a valid email address when ordering. In-store customers will receive a rave card containing the code and instructions. 3-Day Early Access Program
With your pre-order Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures, you will be able to participate in the 3-day Early Access Program. Early access period starts on May 17, 3 days before the commercial release on May 20, 2008. You may begin downloading the game client files and installing as early as May 14. With early access, there is a nominal fee of $5, which covers the cost of the download and includes 10 days of additional game time."

[MickeyFinn]

You're right Bear. I looked into it, and Newegg offers AoC, but not a "True" preorder. Amazon baby!

[Bearabald]

I was thinking Amazon or Gamestop

Amazon has Please note:
You will receive a unique key code via email if you ordered on or before April 10th. Otherwise the unique key code will be delivered via Amazon's Media Library (http://www.amazon.com/gp/ays). The unique code can be used to gain entry when the Early Access Program begins and to redeem the in-game Amazon Bow. This offer is good while supplies last.

Which I dont know what the heck the Media Library is... and i have used amazon for probably 8 years. I guess i need to explore.

[spyder913]

I sure hope the 'flagging' in AoC isn't as stupid as it is in WoW or even SWG. In my mind the best solution would be a flag that can only be turned on or off in a main city. This way if there's a guy who's flagged you can't wait for 10 of your non-flagged friends to show up before getting automatic first strike. In effect this would play like DAoC where the frontiers are laid over top of the rest of the world (like half-court basketball!)

Another method that would be acceptable: turning on your flag requires X amount of time before you can attack people already flagged.

[Hulrig]

There is no flagging in the Pve servers that i'm aware of. There are PvP arenas that you can sign up to play PvP in, like CTF,TDM. Not sure how player city sieges will go on the Pve servers. just some thing to think about when you decide on a server.

[MickeyFinn]

Bear, Amazon has gone super-marketing-scheme lately. They have their own credit card and all sorts of discount programs if you get "amazon premium", etc. Who knows what they're up to

[bleedboy]

I think we need to see what the PVE servers are like first. Would be nice if was DAoCish pvp...i preordered from Gamestop and got my registration code for May 2nd already.

[nukor]

Bleed's post made me go and check my email to see about my code for the pre-order. Yup...got it.

"Go to http://register.ageofconan.com and enter your key. You may begin downloading the game client software and installing as early as May 14. Then you may create a character and begin playing on May 17, 3 days before commercial release on May 20, 2008. Your character and all his/her progress will be preserved into commercial release. This key also unlocks your in-game item. Note: There is a nominal fee of $5 that covers the cost of the download and includes 10 days of additional game time. Some restrictions apply, see registration page for details.

Thank you,

GameStop Customer Service"

[Elvtin]

Hmmmm.... I would have to say the PvE server 1st... And hope for the Daoc style RvR.... Where they have the battlegrounds or frontier style.. Though I would hope for just an open PvP like in Warcraft with just turning the flag on or off depending on mood... So I'm going to vote for PvE... cause I'm a carebear. :D

[Elvtin]

A nominal fee of 5$?? lol.. That's BS!! You already paid either 50$ or 80$ for the game!! And now you have to pay another 5$ to download it 3 days early?? lol.. Unless I'm reading that wrong.. that sucks.. :bang:

[bleedboy]

you read it right Elvis...it kind of sucks and is a money making sham, but shit, for 5 bucks, thats like 1 beer at the bar..

[Golmacmourna]

Instead of speculation: here's how it works.

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&func_id=1094&table=PUBLISH&template=news_features_game&selected=1094

Standard 'pve' server includes borderlands, which are like rvr--where the player run cities get destroyed/seiged, whatever. It's set up so that conflicts are between guild one and guild two, and anybody can hire themselves as 'mercenaries' who are basically temporary allies of a side for the battle. If you're an ally, you don't get a controlling interest in the keep one way or the other, but you get money for the effort.

Pvp leveling is ubiquitous, anything pvp you do contributes to the same pvp leveling structure.

There are battlegrounds on all types of servers. They're called 'minigames' by the AoC community, and there's alot of rancor about them, because people are worried that they'll ruin open world pvp. This is because, according to them, there's no incentive to have large open world pvp conflicts when it's easier and faster to play the minigames.

Those things generally seem to favor your attitudes.

On the other hand, MMOs are nearly not even games, and virtually the only interesting thing that seems to happen while endlessly, lamely, killing mindless npcs, is conflict with other people. I'm not saying it's not worse sometimes--certainly, getting eaten by a high level player isn't always fun. There are some ways around that, but i won't bullshit you like some people and act like it's somehow ok to have to move on to another area or run away half the time to stay safe. But I do think that the spontaneous threat is one of the few things that keeps that kind of gameplay interesting--even with the frustration. From my viewpoint, the frustration is inevitable. MMOs are frustrating. Stupid monsters will always have ridiculous, annoying, retarded abilities that just screw you up. Monsters will appear out of nowhere in a respawn or on a wandering path, and you will get eaten, and it will be bullshit. At lest, if a person does it, it feels more like there was a reason for it--instead of just shitty old MMO design.

When I read the first post talking about WoW, I was a little depressed, since I remember the wow thing, and how, after I quit and came back briefly, it was a ghost town. Spyder and I ended up working with another guild, full of some fun people, on another pvp server, and generally, I got the impression that pvp was the only way to go. Obviously you guys think the opposite, and I think my bias is fairly meaningless.

I think, ultimately, I either want a system with no pvp at all, flagged or otherwise in some places, and total pvp elsewhere. Really, I just want to know what the rules are and then play according to them, not have to worry about people screwing around and dancing in and out of pvp. I don't think open pvp will be a real chore for leveling. Those of us who hit cap early can pitch in to protect and retaliate for others who are still working on leveling. Ultimately, getting pissed off and unable to level will happen regardless--especially if you stick it out trying to solo all the time. That's what MMOs are for. To piss you off and make you suffer. PvP, really, is just an excuse to have some fun with that suffering.

Obviously, though, wherever everyone else goes, thither goeth I.

And I like elvtin. He's a sweety pie.

[bleedboy]

the PvE server almost seems cool.

[Elvtin]

And I like elvtin. He's a sweety pie. :ooer: :cheese: :hump:

[Bearabald]

A nominal fee of 5$?? lol.. That's BS!! You already paid either 50$ or 80$ for the game!! And now you have to pay another 5$ to download it 3 days early?? lol.. Unless I'm reading that wrong.. that sucks.. :bang:

As much as i think the $5 thing is crap, they are including 10 days of playtime to your account as well. Which if the game is $15 / month, that is $5 = 10 days.

[Bearabald]

My problem with a full out pvp type structure if Griefing. I am not against killing a lowbie from time to time, but camping and whatnot gets old real fast. If you are not a hardcore player and are not able to keep up with the leveling curve you get screwed. The same goes for when you want to level alts.

The PvE server concept in AoC sounds pretty damn neat and I am one of those people that really like battleground type of combat where the sides are somewhat balanced. Zerging gets sort of old fast for me, but if that is your style it sounds like you can do that in the border area anyways.

[MickeyFinn]

Yeah. It should be like Darkness Falls. The best leveling is in PVP areas, but if somebody's griefing you should be able to walk over to your realm area and be undisturbed.

Battlegrounds vs. Large RvR: If rewards from these areas aren't comparable, neither should kill the other one.

[Syri]

I think my vote would be for pve servers. looks like there's still plenty of oppertunity for pvp, but without all the immature camping and griefing you get from an open pvp world. Best way to decide though is to try it, and see how it goes.

[Cavan]

I vote for PvE Server.... not saying I won't create a toon on a PvP server... but I like having the knowledge that I won't be ganked as I increase in level... just because someone thinks its fun... :|

I have the game on Pre-Order from EB Games / Gamestop.... so I should be getting my early DL code soon....

[MickeyFinn]

Okay, but who the hell is going to play Axester's meat shield?! Come on!

[Cavan]

I usually have a tank class for group stuff... and a stealth guy for my solo exploits...

[Coplann]

vote for pve too, there will be guild based rvr-like pvp soon enough.

I will be in the game later than most of you due to 2-3 weeks shipping. I will then proceed to whatever server you are on :)

[nukor]

I am just jacked we have this many Lions talking about a game. So good to have a Lion group in a game!

[spyder913]

vote for pve too, there will be guild based rvr-like pvp soon enough.

I will be in the game later than most of you due to 2-3 weeks shipping. I will then proceed to whatever server you are on :)Are you not getting a preorder code? That will let you in 3 days before launch, and from what I read you can continue to play for two weeks before you are required to enter your retail code.

[Noleader]

We are going to need a forum for this game.

[spyder913]

It might be interesting to just have every comment about it within this one thread. More complicated, but so compact!

[Golmacmourna]

I think my vote would be for pve servers. looks like there's still plenty of oppertunity for pvp, but without all the immature camping and griefing you get from an open pvp world. Best way to decide though is to try it, and see how it goes.

well, maturity won't improve, I can guarantee that. If anything, the maturity level should be lower, since the people involved will be ones who, in general, feel the need to have rules protecting them, rather than making due with adversity. There are plenty of sensible reasons to go pve instead of pvp--maturity level isn't one of them.

[Noleader]

well, maturity won't improve, I can guarantee that. If anything, the maturity level should be lower, since the people involved will be ones who, in general, feel the need to have rules protecting them, rather than making due with adversity. There are plenty of sensible reasons to go pve instead of pvp--maturity level isn't one of them.

I would debate that. Adults tend to like structure and rules while teens and kids like the lack their of; proof of which is visible in every day life.

Also one must figure in those who have the time to level up quickly and those that don't. Those that don't would like PvE servers more as they do not have to concern themselves with staying in the curve while those that do want to be the top man on the totempole as they can in turn greif others.

[Elvtin]

Meat Shield and cherry pie!!

[Golmacmourna]

I would debate that. Adults tend to like structure and rules while teens and kids like the lack their of; proof of which is visible in every day life.

Also one must figure in those who have the time to level up quickly and those that don't. Those that don't would like PvE servers more as they do not have to concern themselves with staying in the curve while those that do want to be the top man on the totempole as they can in turn greif others.

It'll be a fun debate!

As a kid, sure you don't like rules, when they don't work for you--but 'hey unfair' is also the endless refrain of immaturity. Things aren't fair sometimes, and you can still have fun. For instance, if you want to *mate* you must get used to things being extremely unfair, and learn to live with an entity that talks a big game in terms of clearly defined rules and expectations, and then defenestrates them at the slightest provocation. Yet--these entities are also alot of fun. And the challenge of dealing with their insane crap is part of that fun. (note: the preceding description cuts both ways and works for any type of relationship--no genders were biased in the making of this comment, for a full transcript of how wonderful you are, please call 555-U-ROK, and someone will buy you a drink and tell you you're pretty)

I remember as a kid that, left to our own devices, kids would make up rules all over the place. 4 square, for instance, was an angry gauntlet of difficult to understand, multilayered rules designed to buffer each other from anything that smacked of unfairness. Kids need rules.

Later as adults, we do whatever the hell we want, and if you don't like it, go to a different bar, basically.

Adult rules are designed to maintain the commons. Kid rules are designed to create foam padding around everyone so that nobody gets their feelings hurt--of course, this is impossible, and outside the watchful eye of teacher, nasty things are said.

Voluntarily going into a place where you're 'protected' means you aren't in the right frame of mind to, when someone kills you, go 'heh, silly rabbit--thanes are for mids'--yes, even when you're doing some quest and just want to level and even with they're level a billiontyone and you're level negative zero. Even then. Not being able to shrug it off is definitely a sign that you're not behaving as maturely as you could be. For instance, what would jesus do if he were corpse camped by someone 20 levels higher than him? Well I'll tell you. He'd keep rezzing until they got bored.

Amirite?

In any case, having lived through open pvp--and achieved my first character to level cap ever in an mmo, and my second char to level cap (ever in an mmo), I know, through my own experience that no amount of high levelers ganking can stop the noble heart that beats within the chest of every red blooded giant purple woman with horns.

Maturity has to do with dealing with *other* people's foibles and not imposing your foibles on them. If they want to gank you, then fine, you can gank them, or not, or whatever. On the other hand, wanting an environment where you can't get ganked unless you say it's ok is demanding a kind of control over your playtime which means you're not interested in being mature.

Which is totally acceptable.

But it does mean that the people are less mature in general because they came for fun, not to practice tolerating others.

[Morety]

I loved the WoW pvp server. I'm with Golmac.

That being said, everyone's going pve, so I guess, like Golmac, I will too.

[Bearabald]

I thought I loved the WoW pvp servers until i leveled my warlock on a pve server and finally got to enjoy all the content that I missed out on while leveling my pally on the pvp server. I still had my fair shair of world pvp and pvp in general on the pve server, but seeing how much i missed with my pally really opened my eyes.

[Golmacmourna]

That's what you get for shield-hearthing everytime you saw a green. :D

[]LoL[Harm]

Experience speaks volumes. I play games to have fun with friends, not to have the fun interrupted a couple of times an hour by another group of people I don't know who are hell bent on preventing me from playing content in the game I paid for.

Butter it up all you want on the "Thrill of the Moment", I pay for game content that designers put into the game, and I want to cooperatively enjoy that game with friends. Things that impeded that annoy me.

The real reason why PvP sucked donkeydick in WoW is because there were absolutely NO consequences for death, which is a huge discussion on its own. But you can talk all you want about this theoretical help from those who level faster than you, but plug in all the variables of real life and you'll find that help is there, but on select occasions and never constant enough to allow you the enjoyment of the game you've purchased.

And this comes from a guy who still plays EvE Online, the most ruthless, PVP orientated game, currently up in major usage.

[Coplann]

Are you not getting a preorder code? That will let you in 3 days before launch, and from what I read you can continue to play for two weeks before you are required to enter your retail code.

well, I pre ordered the collectors edition. But I dont think I will get a preorder code. Id have trouble downloading 23 GB with volume-based HSDPA anyway. ;)

[Golmacmourna]

LoL[Harm;158968']
And this comes from a guy who still plays EvE Online, the most ruthless, PVP orientated game, currently up in major usage.

what is it about EVE that you like--or that makes you willing to tolerate it?

[bleedboy]

i hope they show b00bies in AoC, like when Arnold was tagging the witch then tosses her into the fire.

[Syri]

LoL[Harm;158968']Experience speaks volumes. I play games to have fun with friends, not to have the fun interrupted a couple of times an hour by another group of people I don't know who are hell bent on preventing me from playing content in the game I paid for.

Butter it up all you want on the "Thrill of the Moment", I pay for game content that designers put into the game, and I want to cooperatively enjoy that game with friends. Things that impeded that annoy me.

The real reason why PvP sucked donkeydick in WoW is because there were absolutely NO consequences for death, which is a huge discussion on its own. But you can talk all you want about this theoretical help from those who level faster than you, but plug in all the variables of real life and you'll find that help is there, but on select occasions and never constant enough to allow you the enjoyment of the game you've purchased.

I think Harm summed up my feelings a lot better than my original post on the subject. It's possible to work around the ganking and the corpse camping, it doesn't happen all the time even. but it does take away from the experience a bit, sometimes it's just nice to be able to kick back, have some fun and not worry about someone crashing the party.

[MickeyFinn]

I'm a little worried. I preordered on Amazon, but it says delivery date will be May 21st. wtf?

[]LoL[Harm]

what is it about EVE that you like--or that makes you willing to tolerate it?

It is all rooted in the consequences that come with death in Eve and the way that you "level" in the game and what that level actually means (level in EvE does not magically equate to "I kill you without risk"). But to go into all the reasons would take a bit of a write up, which I may do, depending on if I get delayed here in the Denver airport. But that write up would be in a new thread, I feel guilty standing on my soapbox and derailing this thread.

[spyder913]

Who cares? You get a preorder code which lets you download the game on the 14th!

[Muadi]

Per Harm's messages. The community has everything to do with the enjoyment of the game. In DAoC we were on Pell. At best, there might have been 1200 hibbies playing on Pell at the same time (during DAoC's good times). 1200 is a small community. If somebody was pissing people off, word got around and nobody would group with that person. Sure, we had our Eclipses' and other butt-heads, but they were just a few.
In comes WoW. Massive community. Thousands and thousands on the server. Because of this, people could be ass-hats and get away with it. You could not 'black list' them because you may not actually see them again, ever. The server was too large, impersonal, and there was no retribution for bad behavior.
Establish the small server feel, limit the number of people, and the gaming gets much better.
Look how small Pell was...if other pell hibbies join other games (using the same names) we would know them and hang with them because we spent so much time with them playing DAoC. We know them.

[Bearabald]

That's what you get for shield-hearthing everytime you saw a green. :D

I am pretty sure i was at one point the most hardcore WoW player of the whole bunch. Raiding 4-5 nights a week and logging 30+ a week easy. However, those days are looooong past (ie. marriage, 60+ hours a week job, ect). And yeah, I am very much aware how sad I was back then, lol.

The funny part is I signed on to WOW the other day and I am pretty sure my only hope would be to bubble / hearth if I came across even a lowbie hordlet :) SOOO much has changed and the gear in that games is NUTS now :P

I am really looking forward to starting something new. For me it is so much harder to go back to something old. I am really wanting to get back in to a game (I mean come on... i reinstalled WOW) :rolly:

[MickeyFinn]

Tell you what Bear. If you're willing to choose a decent meat shield I'll heal you. Unless I'm AFK. You'll know when I am. Usually.

[Golmacmourna]

I've been trying to gauge the community via their forums, and I honestly can't tell. Everyone's an asshat, but most of them are asshats with complete sentences and multiple paragraphs. I think the asshattery may just be because it's not out out yet, and nobody has real information.

For instance, the thing about mercenaries, and guild pvp points being used to determine who has priority for sieging a keep at scheduled times... is ... I mean... there's alot of room there for WTF and BBQ.

[Hulrig]

The player base in beta is not that bad. Well at least on the Pve servers it wasn't. The PvP one was okay but something about PvP brings out the worst in some people. The forums are always the loudest with the people that have problems or don't like something that isn't going there way.

As more people got in to Beta you lose something in the testers, most seem to be there to try the game and not test it. So you get more complaints then you do helpfull suggestions or bug reports.

[Syri]

i'm happy, i just got an invite to join the last stages of the closed beta :)
i'm under a NDA from lvl 13 upwards though, because the open beta only lets you get to 13. seems a bit wierd, but whatever :) i can play early :)

[Bearabald]

I usually play a class that can rez (ever since daoc anyways).
My Mains have been: Champion -> Illusionist -> Pally -> Loremaster.
Or: Debuffer -> Pet class / Healer -> Buffer / Healer -> Pet Class / CC / Healer

I like Healing / Buffing, but I do like Pets and Crowd Control. So many decision. I have to admit, the classes sound very different from the classic mold.

I finally Preordered the other day from gamestop.

One big perk I just thought of about the preplay time... Securing Names early! If anyone that is not doing the preorder needs a name secured, you will have to let us know so someone can hold it for you.

I plan on getting Polarbear, Polarbeer, and Nanuq.

[nukor]

I love the fact that I am looking forward to a game again! I am playing WoW, but it just feels like a grind. I find myself playing less and less. I still like a PvP server but will be more than happy to play a PvE server with a group of good people.

[bleedboy]

today was supposed to be an early registration, but it seems the billing database on funcom has been down.

[Cavan]

today was supposed to be an early registration, but it seems the billing database on funcom has been down.

The longest "6 hours" known to man.... :|

[bleedboy]

isnt 12 noon gmt 7am here? well east coast anyways. if six hours, it should be 1pm here....i think

[Cavan]

isnt 12 noon gmt 7am here? well east coast anyways. if six hours, it should be 1pm here....i think

The same message was up yesterday... :D

[bleedboy]

ah...i didnt check yesterday

[Elvtin]

Mongol General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

I do believe I'm going to be going with a Tanker type for my 1st toon. :)

[Bearabald]

I am trying to read through and count how many people we have coming. Even then i dont know how many we would actually have since i know at least 2-3 people that dont frequent the forums enough, but will be there. Guessing, it looks like we will have 20+ on day one.

[MickeyFinn]

So I guess the answer to Coplann's original post is: Yes.

[Elvtin]

...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to "skip a bit, brother"]... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." Amen.

So there's going to be 5...

[Syri]

i've got my closed beta up and running. on closed beta 1 with a priest named Pirel. only got to level 5 so far, interesting combat system.

[bleedboy]

was finanlly able to create my account...the funcom billing systen is apparently fixed

[Noleader]

I am having fun in the beta... Combat is really hard to get use to and healing is a bit odd but I am having a lot of fun.

[Muadi]

Has anybody found it for less than $49?
What will the monthly fee be?

[bleedboy]

monthly is $15...i think i paid 49 though...

[bleedboy]

at least it sounds a little challenging

[PoxTheSmall]

I haven't heard anything about this at all. The original screenshots I saw were from 2 years ago so I'd hope things have improved a tad. I'll give it a shot. Is it out?

[Bearabald]

I haven't heard anything about this at all. The original screenshots I saw were from 2 years ago so I'd hope things have improved a tad. I'll give it a shot. Is it out?

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&template=content&func_id=2346&table=CONTENT

watch that video and tell me what you think :)

Sure sounds like a Nerd type of game to me.

It is released on May 20th, a bunch of us have preordered it already

[bleedboy]

hey Pox...thought you may have fallen off the coast..havent seen you in a long time. AoC is almost out, give it a shot..

[Syri]

i'm afraid after playing the beta, i'm going to have to cancel my preorder. my system just can't handle it :/
on low detail settings, the frame rate can go from 30fps to 0.30fps in an instant, and it lags up for a minute or so if you enter a new area, get a new item, and various other times.
my pc isn't really "low" spec, but it only just scrapes the requirements for the game, so until i can afford to upgrade, it's no go for me i'm afraid.

if anyone's wondering, my pc is a pentium dual core 2.8 (not a core 2), 2gb ddr2 (slow speed), geforce 7800gt 256mb

[bleedboy]

might not be a system issue though. That doesnt seem like its that bad of a machine and it does meet their requirements. It may be server end, i think thats why its an open beta right now..you may want to check out their forums and see if this is an issue with others as well.

Maybe PM me your info for the beta so i can download it and see if my machine will pass the test too.

[Noleader]

i'm afraid after playing the beta, i'm going to have to cancel my preorder. my system just can't handle it :/
on low detail settings, the frame rate can go from 30fps to 0.30fps in an instant, and it lags up for a minute or so if you enter a new area, get a new item, and various other times.
my pc isn't really "low" spec, but it only just scrapes the requirements for the game, so until i can afford to upgrade, it's no go for me i'm afraid.

if anyone's wondering, my pc is a pentium dual core 2.8 (not a core 2), 2gb ddr2 (slow speed), geforce 7800gt 256mb

Syri the Open Beta is running on a old code base. For whatever reason they released the open beta with a quite old code base that still includes a crapload of memory leaks and such. The PvP Weekend executable they used ran a crapload better and hardly taxed by system.

http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1018

[Yellow5]

I have horrible performance issues with the beta also. Things were fine until I hit the first city and now the game is a slide show. I was averaging 30-40 frames per second with high details before the city.

I want to like this game, but am really unimpressed so far.

[Hulrig]

The problem your having during your beta. There is a lot of debuger and other back ground programs running. So they can capture the info from peoples machines to see what is happening with there servers. This way they can adjust settings to help stabalize and make the proformance better. When the retail version comes out these things will not be running so your proformance will be better.

[Syri]

Syri the Open Beta is running on a old code base. For whatever reason they released the open beta with a quite old code base that still includes a crapload of memory leaks and such. The PvP Weekend executable they used ran a crapload better and hardly taxed by system.

http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1018

i'm not in the open beta...
i'm in the closed beta, which is the code they're launching with

[feril]

Hail Lions!

Count me in! It will be a real treat to hang out with all of you again! Its been just over 2 years since the last MMO:)

[Bearabald]

Wooooooooot!

Abelard and Feril are in!

feril, I think you might be the only person that still uses their email address from that oooooold list :) My email instantly filled up with returned email the second i sent that, lol

[nukor]

Got my account created this morning with all the pre-order goodies. As of May 17th we need to have the server name we will be on. Will be great fun with all the Lions again. I am working on getting Brey to play with us. ;)

[MickeyFinn]

BUT WHO THE HELL WILL PLAY AS MY MEAT SHIELD

[Cavan]

So... we all have to choose the same Server (which can't be done until the 17th)...

I assume that we also all need to select the same Race... (Has this been decided?)

From the start the class selection is not as important... but will be latter in the game I'm sure....

[nukor]

You do have to be the same race. All races can play together.

[spyder913]

You do not have to be the same race. All races can play together.Fixed =)

[Bearabald]

I dont care if this turns out to be MMOPong, it will be hella fun with all these old timers!

[Elvtin]

Will there be punch and pie?

[Riddick]

I might pick it up but probably not initially. Old client or not when you go gold and invite thousands of people to your stress test to have as many bugs as they had it really reminds me of there Anarchy Online release...

From what I heard however Anarchy Online turned out to be a gem and I don't doubt that with AoC... I am just going to give it a little time.

[Bearabald]

The wait and see idea always sounds good in theory, but people always seem to take my name when i wait :)

[Noleader]

I remember being in the World of Warcraft Stress Test and thinking 'wow what a peice of shit' but it turned out good. I am hopeful it will launch with limited issues, or atleast more uptime then WoW had the first month.

[Riddick]

Yeah, if I hear glowing praise from you all at launch I'm there. I am just not going to rush to get it or pre-order.

Riddick will probably be gone for a name, no doubt on that but I have been shying away from that name lately going with either Brayl or Vykenos for games and don't see anyone taking them. :uhoh:

[Yellow5]

i'm not in the open beta...
i'm in the closed beta, which is the code they're launching with

Same here, and still have horrible performance.

Heck I can run Vanguard at 60fps and that game has some serious graphic issues as well, but AoC just runs like a turd for me. It's a shame because the little bit of the game that I played was pretty fun.

[Noleader]

If their release client runs smooth we will let you guys know :D

[Elvtin]

Monthly Fee'z!

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&&func_id=2421&table=CONTENT

[Cavan]

Any website out there that have the skill trees?? I know nothing is final... but it would be fun to play with...

[nukor]

Couple i have found.

http://goonheim.com/goonheim/feats/view/assassin

http://www.conankave.com/kave_calc/necromancer/kave_calc.php

have fun.

[Morety]

Okay, bought my preorder today and will be going on later tonight to pre-register. See you all on the 17th :)

[Bearabald]

I preordered through Gamestop about a week about, but i havent received any pre-register info yet. Anyone else in the same boat?

Do you have to buy it from funcom to get the key?

[MickeyFinn]

Amazon hasn't sent me jack shiz

[Noleader]

I think they are waiting to right before the keys need to be in hand as I have not gotten anything yet but I can still cancel my pre-order if I want to.

[Morety]

I bought at eb-games and they gave me a card with a key-code-thingy on it.

[Coplann]

now, where is the AoC Forum here? :p

So, when I join (and Calain probably too) you better have a guild city running for us already and some nice loot and PL as welcome greeting :D j/k

[bleedboy]

i am pretty sure they havent gone out yet, but think of this too...a ton of people are going to try and d/l 6-8gb of the client all at the same time. I cant see myself even being able to play it until that saturday at best. I was able to register for the early access though...

[Cavan]

I just shudder that the thought of them using something like Torant (sp?)....:bang:

[spyder913]

I was hoping they would give us a torrent for the client (at least as an option) instead of a huge download. They go just as fast but are more reliable than trying to download multi-gigabyte files.

Gamestop/EB seems to be sending out their preorder emails on Thursdays, but I don't know what Amazon's doing.

[Hulrig]

Well if they use what they give us the patches on. Then you can expect a 10-20 hr download or longer. Hopefully they figure it out by then and make it a better process than now.

[Bearabald]

I am trying to keep track of who is on board with this. This is what i gathered from quickly browsing the thread. Please let me know if there are more people to be added and I can edit the post to include or move people from one list to the other (if something has changed). If you are not on here... please reply and I will fix it.

Going to Give it a Shot
Bearabald
Coplann
Morety
Spyder
Elvtin
Mickeyfinn
Bleedboy
Malkovich
Golmacmourna
Nukor
Noleader
Cavan
Poxthesmall
Feril
Abelard
Codeve
Calain

On the Fence or Waiting or I Couldn't Tell
Riddick
Syri
Bedpost
Hulrig
Muadi

[Cavan]

I think Bedpost is on the fence...

[MickeyFinn]

on the fence != in the closet

just kidding. peace and love

[Bearabald]

Surely there are more. I think my bro (Foebane) and his roommate (Esnori) will be there. I will double check before adding them to the list though. I will continue to try to talk my best friend (Kitz) in to making an appearance as well.

[Golmacmourna]

Bear... *sniff* ... the fact that you... *sniffle* ... the fact that you spelled my name correctly *whimper* ... is just... so touching...

c'mere big guy...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/IMA/E91~Bear-Hug-Posters.jpg

[Bohdan]

I think I will give it a try, but I don't know if I'll be able to get my hands on an early download code. There are a limited number of those available.

Boh

[spyder913]

Not if you order online at EBGames...

[nukor]

Here is hoping they release the server names before the 17th. :)

[MickeyFinn]

Kitz is a great guy, would love to see him play

[Calain]

Iam in.

[bleedboy]

well, we still got 9 days before they allow people to d/l for early access. I would suspect that some point next week we should get the info on it.

[Morety]

I bought mine at EB Games, and they gave me a physical card with the code under some scratch-off thing like a lottery ticket. I've already entered it and will get my extra-stuff belt for the low levels, and when I turn 40 I get a War Mammoth!!!!

[Bearabald]

I just received my Gamestop code via email. I guess they send out emails every Thursday, but I ordered my copy just after the cutoff last week for the emails. Yay for Mammoths!

[kitty]

sadness... you didnt even put me on the list, your dead to me. i dunno if im gonna play the day it opens tho..but your still dead to me.

[Morety]

sadness... you didnt even put me on the list, your dead to me. i dunno if im gonna play the day it opens tho..but your still dead to me.

So are you gonna be in or not? Fence sitter!

[Bearabald]

All the people on this list have been actively talking about the game. You havent posted in this thread since january! Punk!

:)