Boom
03-28-2002, 02:36 PM
Whose keep suckah!?!?!
We are on the top 25 realm point holders again. I've just reviewed the old patch notes and worked out the following. If you claim a keep, you get (1000*keep difficulty) guild realm points an hour. the keep I want is a difficulty 2 keep, so we would get 2000 guild RPs an hour. Owning a keep only costs 500 guild bonus points to claim, and 50 guild bonus points an hour rent to keep it (it does not effect our individual realm points or bonus points in any way). Our guild has 7600 bonus points, so if we claim a keep, we can potentially hold it for 140 hours and get 280,000 guild realm points. Of course, we would almost definitely have to retake it a bunch of times.
We could also upgrade the keep to from levels 1-10. It would then cost us 500 guild bonus points per hour (50*upgrade level). If we upgrade the keep, the guards, rangers, patrols, and keep lord will be way stronger, so it will be much easier to defend. However, I don't think that it effects the guild BPs we would get, so if its upgraded to level 10, we would only be able to hold it for 14 hours, and only get 28,000 guild BPs for holding it. We can decide whether to upgrade it partially, or not at all.
Retaking and claiming a keep in the Hib frontier like da behn is too ez. I want an alb keep. I want the alb ammo keep, Caer Benowyc. Let those jerks learn what its like to try and defend a keep that is a 20 minute walk from their realm, and is a 3 minute walk from our portal keep. Jerks. Stoopid Alb jerks.
Benowyc is a level 2 difficulty keep. That figures in the bonuses we get for owning it. These are the bonuses. This is copied right out of the patch notes, but I just changed the example they use at the bottom so the numbers would apply to our situation.
These bonuses only affect PVP melee damage, PVP spell damage, realm point accrual and bounty point accrual. They are:
- +1% per enemy Keep conquered by your realm in an enemy realm
- +2%xDIFF if your guild is currently holding a keep (DIFF is the outpost difficulty level 1 to 5)
- +3%xDIFF if you are defending a keep that your guild alliance is holding
When we take Ben, that will be 2 keeps our realm has conquered in other realms, so we will always receive a +2% bonus no matter where you are. In addition, our guild will be holding a level difficulty 2 keep just across the border, we will get an additional +4% bonus no matter where we are (total of +6%). I think this may even apply to our lower guys fighting in the sandboxes. In addition, if we are fighting in name region of Benowyc (I don't know if this applies to just the keep itself, or the whole area of Hadrian's wall, we will get an additional +6% (total of +12%).
That's better than holding both alb relics. The relics would give us a 10% bonus to melee and magic damage. This gives us a 12% bonus to melee and magic damage, and to realm point accrual and to bonus point accrual for every kill in Hadrians wall. and a 6% bonus to all those things for every kill of any alb or mid anywhere.
Also, its time we started turning the tide on the economic war. We should not spend lots of money on this. We need to figure out how much a ram costs if Grundy and I make the components (aside from the ram beak and the wood). If it costs more than 30 gold, I say we just bap the door down with Dape's head. I also don't want to spend gold upgrading the door after we take it. If we want to upgrade, we can be cheapo and use rowan wood, they sell it right there. You can upgrade a door to like level 5 or 6 for just a few gold with rowan wood. We usually use ebonwood because its a hassle to carry the tons of rowan wood necessary to do the upgrade. Its a lot easier to use ebonwood, but it costs hundreds of gold. Or we can just not upgrade at all. Let them retake it, let them spend hundreds of gold upgrading the door, then we retake it and spend no gold. Those alb jerks bankrupted our realm by killing our doors. The Lions can start this battle to reverse the economic war and be an example to the rest of Hibernia.
By my count we have 6 Lions that are 40-50.
We have 15 Lions that are 30-50.
That in itself is almost enough to take an undefended keep. And like I said, their ammo keep is aaaaaaaaaall the way across their frontier from their realm, and its right by our portal keep. And its not like emain, nobody hangs out there. We can take it before they know we are there. Just before we go, we make an announcement on /as that we are doing it. Not one of those "YOUR REALM NEEDS YOU!!! GO TO DL NOW!!!" messages, just one saying that the Lions are taking the alb ammo keep for funzies and that all Hibs of all levels are invited to join in. If we just get one or two high level groups, or 4 or 5 mid level groups, it will probably be a cakewalk.
If we totally fail, so what? It will be fun, and it will give our leaders experience in leading a raid. Draethor is awesome, but the more experienced raid leaders Hib has, the better off we are.
I was thinking Friday night at 10PM est. Who is in?? If that time is no good for you, lemme know when is a good time. I really want all of us to be there. Every Lion from level 1 to level Malk, is invited, but the level 30 to level Malk guys will really be needed.
We are on the top 25 realm point holders again. I've just reviewed the old patch notes and worked out the following. If you claim a keep, you get (1000*keep difficulty) guild realm points an hour. the keep I want is a difficulty 2 keep, so we would get 2000 guild RPs an hour. Owning a keep only costs 500 guild bonus points to claim, and 50 guild bonus points an hour rent to keep it (it does not effect our individual realm points or bonus points in any way). Our guild has 7600 bonus points, so if we claim a keep, we can potentially hold it for 140 hours and get 280,000 guild realm points. Of course, we would almost definitely have to retake it a bunch of times.
We could also upgrade the keep to from levels 1-10. It would then cost us 500 guild bonus points per hour (50*upgrade level). If we upgrade the keep, the guards, rangers, patrols, and keep lord will be way stronger, so it will be much easier to defend. However, I don't think that it effects the guild BPs we would get, so if its upgraded to level 10, we would only be able to hold it for 14 hours, and only get 28,000 guild BPs for holding it. We can decide whether to upgrade it partially, or not at all.
Retaking and claiming a keep in the Hib frontier like da behn is too ez. I want an alb keep. I want the alb ammo keep, Caer Benowyc. Let those jerks learn what its like to try and defend a keep that is a 20 minute walk from their realm, and is a 3 minute walk from our portal keep. Jerks. Stoopid Alb jerks.
Benowyc is a level 2 difficulty keep. That figures in the bonuses we get for owning it. These are the bonuses. This is copied right out of the patch notes, but I just changed the example they use at the bottom so the numbers would apply to our situation.
These bonuses only affect PVP melee damage, PVP spell damage, realm point accrual and bounty point accrual. They are:
- +1% per enemy Keep conquered by your realm in an enemy realm
- +2%xDIFF if your guild is currently holding a keep (DIFF is the outpost difficulty level 1 to 5)
- +3%xDIFF if you are defending a keep that your guild alliance is holding
When we take Ben, that will be 2 keeps our realm has conquered in other realms, so we will always receive a +2% bonus no matter where you are. In addition, our guild will be holding a level difficulty 2 keep just across the border, we will get an additional +4% bonus no matter where we are (total of +6%). I think this may even apply to our lower guys fighting in the sandboxes. In addition, if we are fighting in name region of Benowyc (I don't know if this applies to just the keep itself, or the whole area of Hadrian's wall, we will get an additional +6% (total of +12%).
That's better than holding both alb relics. The relics would give us a 10% bonus to melee and magic damage. This gives us a 12% bonus to melee and magic damage, and to realm point accrual and to bonus point accrual for every kill in Hadrians wall. and a 6% bonus to all those things for every kill of any alb or mid anywhere.
Also, its time we started turning the tide on the economic war. We should not spend lots of money on this. We need to figure out how much a ram costs if Grundy and I make the components (aside from the ram beak and the wood). If it costs more than 30 gold, I say we just bap the door down with Dape's head. I also don't want to spend gold upgrading the door after we take it. If we want to upgrade, we can be cheapo and use rowan wood, they sell it right there. You can upgrade a door to like level 5 or 6 for just a few gold with rowan wood. We usually use ebonwood because its a hassle to carry the tons of rowan wood necessary to do the upgrade. Its a lot easier to use ebonwood, but it costs hundreds of gold. Or we can just not upgrade at all. Let them retake it, let them spend hundreds of gold upgrading the door, then we retake it and spend no gold. Those alb jerks bankrupted our realm by killing our doors. The Lions can start this battle to reverse the economic war and be an example to the rest of Hibernia.
By my count we have 6 Lions that are 40-50.
We have 15 Lions that are 30-50.
That in itself is almost enough to take an undefended keep. And like I said, their ammo keep is aaaaaaaaaall the way across their frontier from their realm, and its right by our portal keep. And its not like emain, nobody hangs out there. We can take it before they know we are there. Just before we go, we make an announcement on /as that we are doing it. Not one of those "YOUR REALM NEEDS YOU!!! GO TO DL NOW!!!" messages, just one saying that the Lions are taking the alb ammo keep for funzies and that all Hibs of all levels are invited to join in. If we just get one or two high level groups, or 4 or 5 mid level groups, it will probably be a cakewalk.
If we totally fail, so what? It will be fun, and it will give our leaders experience in leading a raid. Draethor is awesome, but the more experienced raid leaders Hib has, the better off we are.
I was thinking Friday night at 10PM est. Who is in?? If that time is no good for you, lemme know when is a good time. I really want all of us to be there. Every Lion from level 1 to level Malk, is invited, but the level 30 to level Malk guys will really be needed.